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U-Tracer 3+

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Say wut?

Well i guess most of you are familiar with that there´s thing known as tube testers. Seing this is GAB...yea well. Most of these testers are old...rarely calibrated and what not. Yes,i´ve got one of them too. A old East-German made RPG-70.
That RPG of mine i´ve overhauled from one end to the other and indeed...it hands me the most basic information.

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Many come down on these East-German builds as being ripoffs of the old West-German Funke builds but...nah. Off mark. No matter they do what they claim to do and done deal. Mine is a later build,being put together back in 1977. For a regular tube tester that´s "new".
Anyways.
What when we´re in need of more information and what´s more...what about making the whole concept hit the 21st century?
Well.
Enter U-Tracer.

http://www.dos4ever.com/uTracer3/uTracer3_pag0.html

That´s the URL for them.

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The U-Tracer is delivered in kit form. A mere 215 Euros does it and...that makes for that some regard this as a toy. Having completed my own i can only attest to that it is CERTAINLY not.

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Actual PCB is out of fibreglass and sturdy to the build. Through plated as far as the holes. In short a piece of well engineered PCB.

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...various components come neatly packaged and marked.

Altho this to a large extent comes down to "paint by numbers" i still want to go on record and state that a U-Tracer is NOT a kit for the novice. You need some basic understanding before taking on a build like this.

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To handle this...one SERIOUSLY well written build manual!

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As it indeed is a kit that means that you´ll have to look up various bits n pieces on your own. This little pine box i picked up locally. Added some hinges and a latch..you get the drill.

So. I took to trying to figure this project out. One of the major issues with tube testers/tracers is the sockets. Tubes have been produced with different sockets and pinouts out the fabled so..how to handle that?

Well.

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Me i´m a lazy SOB. Most engineers are...that´s why we become.. :crazy: So what i did was opt to order quite a few so called saver sockets for octals and novals directly from Asia. They´re cheap enough.
So. To NOT end up with a build that´s filled to the brim with various sockets i decided on going this route..and it´ll be simple enough to repin these saver sockets within to cater to whatever tube i wish to test really.
This entails even using old odd sockets...like for EL-12´s..EF-12s..and what not. ECL-82 and 86...ECC-808´s...you name it. The saver sockets will in short just do what i ask of them.

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One of the few limitations of the U-Tracer is that it´s limited to 1.5A for heater current. So. I opted to install a separate transformer for that,so i can switch between the internal and external (read-transformer) heaters.
The actual U-Tracer in turn is powered by a common laptop brick. As a brick like that is switched that brings that the capacity of it,in amperes,is rather large.

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That there in turn is what that external transformer will head into. A PWM (pulse width modulated) piece of kit that makes it possible to control output voltage between 2VDC and approx 35VDC.

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The actual build then..IS very much "paint by numbers". The designers of the kit have very wisely made it a point to halt every now and then to test that the various "blocks" of the build works as intended.

For some reason the designers recomend that you use a very sharp edged/thin tip for your soldering station. I for one found this NOT to be true. Working on tube stuff the tips i use are rather large...and i got by real easy with my regular "medium" tip and 1mm dia solder.

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Faceplate. A simple anodized piece of 2mm thick aluminium.

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I went at it..and all of a sudden i was done. Or..so i thought.

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...i had missed out on a pair of resistors (omitted them completely). An error that was remedied in no time tho so no harm no foul.

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Flipside of the faceplate and...OH will this side of it every get busy!

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Of course the mains switch needed a "Racing" touch! :lol:

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To keep control of the lid i opted to install a regular gas spring for kitchen doors.

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Pilot light. Of course.

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Then for a digital voltmeter and a trim pot for that PWM PCB,to be able to adjust output voltage.

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The miniswitch is to choose between heater voltage from the stand alone transformer or the onboard heater circuit of the U-Tracer.

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Wiring then. DAMN i hate laying heater wiring down!

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A 10A rectifier and an e-cap for the standalone unit.

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That pine box got some mahogony taint. Tried using clearcoat within but..that simply got to shiny for my taste. It´s a damn tool after all,so i opted to go with regular oil instead.

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Yes. Of course that mains breaker needed a "remove before flight" :beavis:

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Starting to give you an idea i guess.

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A´la the well known AVO testers loads of ferrites were added for the wiring.

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Sure enough. An old EL-84 being put through its paces...
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Hm. The RPG serves me well,don´t get me wrong,but i got literally craploads of tubes laying around that i for various reasons have saved. Not only odd or expensive ones but bread n butter ones like EL-34´s and 6L6´s too.
Reason is simple,every now and then a cust comes in the door with an amp where for instance one out of four tubes has gone belly up. Up until now it´s been kind of a chore figuring out what tube to offer...the RPG,as any older tube tester,isn´t exactly fast to use compared to the U-Tracer.

So. The U-Tracer is. That there in the pic is a small bin full of "no good" tubes. Testing them turned into a breeze.

In short? The U-Tracer is the good stuff. Happy as pie that i took the time to put one together.

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An EL-84 being put through its paces in the pic. The various tests that can be performed about says it all. This one..i´m checking how the tube in case reacts to anode load vs g1 voltage.

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In turn so called quick tests can be run. This essentially provides you with raw data of the tube. In short it tells how "well" the tube in case is. Let it be known that having run hundreds of tubes through testers...it sure plants the mere FACT that tubes NEED to be run on a tester to tell status. It is that simple.

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Here a pair of EL-84´s with their anode draw and gm labeled to them.

Gm is in short transconductance. The layman way of explaining that is that gm is how the tube in case reacts to signal and voltages presented for g1. How we match the tubes and what not in short.

Bottom line?
Not all tubetesters or trace testers are created equal. This much is for sure. That said much info can be had from running a tube on ANY tester,meaning that it is better to test than not test at all.
Sans..you´re in conclusion flying blind.

Being well aware that other builders et al read these posts as well i can only attest to that pulling the trigger for a U-Tracer is a good call to make.
Drawbacks?
Yes. It IS IMO a drawback that a U-Tracer does not test for shorts before proceeding to evaluate the tube at hand. As there´s no way of telling what a used tube has been through..this needs to be taken into account. In short i for one at least firmly believe that a U-Tracer needs to be complimented by a regular "old school" one as basically ALL older testers will be able to.
The software for the U-Tracer bugs a bit. When changing screen from being a tracer to the quick test for instance...not all doing what it should at all times.

That said i still find the U-Tracer WELL worth the effort,labor involved and expense. It IS a formidable tool and thus..IMO should be found in the arsenal of all tube techs.
Learning to interpret the info given in turn is at least half easy if you´re into it and the info extracted IS valuable. No argument.

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Right. Adapters. The saver sockets showed up and as mentioned i do own a lathe so.. In this case an EL-36 is being put to the test.

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In essence adapters can be turned for anything you can dream up.

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For various reasons i´ve got a few of these bad boys around. EL-51´s. More expensive than snot so.. Lucky me they all tested real strong.

Summary?
If you´re into tubes more than on a casual basis this IMO is THE tool,sans breaking the bank.
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Wow! Great job on that! Thanks for taking the time to document & share :thu:
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I've looked at that lit before. It's pretty cool bit of kit for sure!
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Very cool, nice job. My tube tester took a crap. Need another.
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Awesome write up and congrats on a successful build!

I've been thinking about getting the Orange VT1000 but, it doesn't test the tubes at full voltage. There really aren't many choices for a tube noob like me.

I checked out Ronald's website. Wow! It is humbling!
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The Orange tester is really a toy in comparsion. No offense vs Orange in any way but..that´s the mere fact.

Yep guys. All i can say is that techs from around even show up with tubes they need a more indepth look at and..yeah..it IS that good.

Seing the kit is a mere 215 Euros inc freight within the EU i´d even go as far as stating that this thing is a friggin bargain. In my case it´s to the point where i´m going to order a second kit just to have one ready should the first PCB fail for whatever reason down the line.
Seing the performance vs cost here it´s a friggin no-brainer in my book with all the results in.
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Yes, I can clearly see that the U-Tracer is far superior to the Orange tester. The Orange is a simple, Go/No-Go tester.

I may give the U-Tracer a try because, the build instructions are very clear and thorough.

I can handle the PC board build but, I will need ideas for the chassis layout and your photos are very helpful. The separate heater transformer is a brilliant idea!

This is very exciting. I'm very happy that you posted this! :rawk:
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That's very cool! :thu: Really nice job man!
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Thanx,all of you.

Look guys. Word of advice. I know it might sound a bit secondary priority for lack of better words but...those of you giving thought to putting a U-Tracer together do NOT omit liberal amounts of ferrites for the physical setup of it.
Ie;for the wiring heading for the tube sockets. This plays an imperative part as far as getting stable readings.

AVO at the time added them for a reason guys..no chance involved.
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