It occurred to me, that

Davidian · Post by **Davidian** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:55 pm

Kung Foo Panda II has better characters, acting, direction and overall does a better job of storytelling than Star Wars Ep I, II & III.

That is all.

primeholy · Post by **primeholy** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:57 pm

ovid9 · Post by **ovid9** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:00 pm

Even though I've never seen KFP II or SW Episode 3, I fully believe this to be true.

soundgardener75 · Post by **soundgardener75** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:09 pm

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:37 pm

TomatoMeter Movie
97% Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
93% Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
81% Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011)
80% Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 3D (2005)
79% Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983)
67% Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones 3D (2002)
57% Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)

elder_things · Post by **elder_things** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:03 pm

I find it hard to believe KFP2 is better than Return.

ovid9 · Post by **ovid9** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:05 pm

elder_things wrote:I find it hard to believe KFP2 is better than Return.

At least if KFP2 has small bearlike creatures in it, it'll make SOME sort of sense outside of a marketing moneygrab.

Mizati20 · Post by **Mizati20** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:18 pm

After having kids I am completely convinced that most of the animated/Pixar stuff is 99% better than anything else out there, I consistently enjoy them more than other movies I go see...

diablogato22 · Post by **diablogato22** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:21 pm

Wut?

Davidian · Post by **Davidian** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:40 pm

Just to be clear on all this:
I won't deny that there are bits and pieces of SW (1,2,3) that just kick ass (Duel of the Fates lightsaber battle comes to mind) but most of it is crap. KFP-II has a more cohesive story, better performances, and better character growth and motivation.
I am, at once, saddened and amused by this realization.

diablogato22 · Post by **diablogato22** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:46 pm

But...but...its Star Wars...... :cry:

elder_things · Post by **elder_things** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:59 pm

ovid9 wrote:
elder_things wrote:I find it hard to believe KFP2 is better than Return.

At least if KFP2 has small bearlike creatures in it, it'll make SOME sort of sense outside of a marketing moneygrab.

It's well known that the ewoks were Lucas's attempt at ruining a great movie.

Davidian · Post by **Davidian** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:05 am

Episode IV is glorious. Great themes, great little self contained story arc, slightly lackluster performances but it had an overall energy to it that none of the other movies were ever able to recapture. Episodes I, II & III however, are drek.

Davidian · Post by **Davidian** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:12 am

elder_things wrote:
ovid9 wrote:
elder_things wrote:I find it hard to believe KFP2 is better than Return.

At least if KFP2 has small bearlike creatures in it, it'll make SOME sort of sense outside of a marketing moneygrab.

It's well known that the ewoks were Lucas's attempt at ruining a great movie.

He finally mastered franchise destroying characters in ep I with this guy...

elder_things · Post by **elder_things** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:35 am

Jar Jar wasn't so bad in this scene

nsfw
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2my3rsw.jpg

Rocket Sauce · Post by **Rocket Sauce** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:55 am

elder_things wrote:
ovid9 wrote:
elder_things wrote:I find it hard to believe KFP2 is better than Return.

At least if KFP2 has small bearlike creatures in it, it'll make SOME sort of sense outside of a marketing moneygrab.

It's well known that the ewoks were Lucas's attempt at ruining a great movie.

My dislike for the entire Star Wars franchise is well documented. That said, The Ewoks are the only thing that I LIKED out of all of the movies.

Well, to be fair, I couldn't get through more than 15 minutes of Revenge of the Sith. That was a piece of shit before it even got started....

Wookieslayer · Post by **Wookieslayer** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:41 am

elder_things wrote:Jar Jar wasn't so bad in this scene

nsfw
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2my3rsw.jpg

damn, now I hate him even more. :drool:

Elessar [Sly] · Post by **Elessar [Sly]** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:52 am

Akira >>>> KFP2

Davidian · Post by **Davidian** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:13 am

Elessar [Sly] wrote:Akira >>>> KFP2

Akira tells it's story from a more serious pov, certainly. I do not think it is more successful than kfp2 at telling its story. I've always found Akira to be a bit difficult to follow and it's performances a bit too Speed Racer'ish for my taste. Overall, it's enjoyable - and it's better than SW I, II, and III - but I have to say I'm not convinced its better than kfp2.

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