Anxiety

[linthat22]

Lotta liver talk and definitely makes me want to drastically curb or remove the booze for a long while. Hell, I switched from heavy IPA's to Coors Light and noticed a difference (other than one tasting like water).

[K-Bizzle]

Lotta liver talk and definitely makes me want to drastically curb or remove the booze for a long while. Hell, I switched from heavy IPA's to Coors Light and noticed a difference (other than one tasting like water).

I'm definitely not an alcoholic by any means and regularly take 1-2 months off at a time but boy is it tough to entirely kick.
For me its social events in particular, its just more fun to have a few drinks when hanging with friends than to not most of the time.

Right now the wife is preggo too which has a two fold effect, me drinking little to none at home and me having a DD anytime we go out.

[BroSlinger]

Lotta liver talk and definitely makes me want to drastically curb or remove the booze for a long while. Hell, I switched from heavy IPA's to Coors Light and noticed a difference (other than one tasting like water).

FWIW, the terpenes in hops are powerful. Never underestimate how powerful herbs can be in your body when taken regularly for months/years at a time. They WILL have effects. Whether they are positive or negative just depends on the herb and how much your body needs the effect the herb provides.

If you take a cocktail of detoxifying herbs like parsley/burdock/dandelion/Hawthorn/etc. for too long, it will start wreaking havoc on your kidneys, liver, electrolyte levels, mineral balance, etc.

I have a feeling hops is pretty powerful stuff when you take enough of it long enough.

[Landshark]

There's Folate and B12. Probably those.

no, its a weird one you cant really get in supplement form. B5, B6? im kinda dumb in regards to vitamin stuff lol

[Ostinato Rubato]

Breathwork. That’s where exercise and yoga lead to essentially, but both exercise and yoga have several other benefits all impacting stress and anxiety.

Supplements and all that can help. Sometimes plant medicines are very helpful. Sometimes they make it worse.

Depression and anxiety are most likely biological impulses that served an adaptive purpose in a tribal Hunter gatherer environment. In the modern context these impulses are maladaptive. I try to take anxiety as a sign that I’m supposed to take action of some sort.

[Pepi]

I finally am getting some relief from this shit. I've been walking 4 miles a day, waxing the cars, not drinking, and a lot of yard work. I really think watching TV and the media threw me into this crash.

[Ry Manchu]

I'm also having BIG issues with depression and anxiety. I take Prozac for it but it's not cutting it anymore. I've lost interest in almost everything in my life (even my family ). I really don't know what to do about this. It came on me about a year ago and seems worse every day. I was hoping our trip out west would help but the whole time I really didn't have any fun and I was paranoid a lot.

Sorry to hear this Pepi. I had an 8 year run of severe clinical depression. I saw psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers. I learned a few things, wasted a lot of time and made plenty of missteps along the way. Prozac helped a little, but you have to get the dosage right and try to take it around the same time every day. If Prozac isn't working after 100 days, move on to another antidepressant. These are the things I found that helped. Trying to go to sleep and wake up at the same time every day. Taking a 30 minute walk while the sun is out. Going to a beach or park for at least an hour, once a week. At least one hour in the gym at least twice a week. Trying to hit all four food groups in three meals a day. Trying to eat the meals at the same time every day. Setting some long-term goals, taking steps to achieve them and not beating myself up on any setbacks. Have some pride whenever you finish a goal. I also had to cut way back on the drinking and self-medicating. Buddhists have it right that too much of anything isn't good for you. T.V., video games and comfort foods are fine in moderation. Vacation is fine as long as you don't put too much into planning or expect too much while you're on it. Finally, engage in love and friendship. These can return as much or more than you give. As you get older, it's harder to make friends, but there are places where you can like tennis or cooking classes.

[GuitarBilly]

It's interesting to read this. I can't say I've ever struggled with chronic depression.
I've been in depressing situations but that's entirely different since it goes away once the situation is solved.
I did quit drinking and lost a lot of weight years ago but for different reasons.
I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with it at the chronic level. I don't really have a lot of advice on this topic, but I hope you guys can overcome this or at least get it to manageable levels. Mojo sent.

[K-Bizzle]

I finally am getting some relief from this shit. I've been walking 4 miles a day, waxing the cars, not drinking, and a lot of yard work. I really think watching TV and the media threw me into this crash.

Man that shit hit everyone over the past year, especially with how many were stuck at home.
Starting last year I started treating my media consumption more like how I treat food. Sure I'll still consume some junk now and then still but it makes up a small portion of my total intake.

It's interesting to read this. I can't say I've ever struggled with chronic depression.
I've been in depressing situations but that's entirely different since it goes away once the situation is solved.
I did quit drinking and lost a lot of weight years ago but for different reasons.
I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with it at the chronic level. I don't really have a lot of advice on this topic, but I hope you guys can overcome this or at least get it to manageable levels. Mojo sent.

Dude MDD is no joke. In my early 20s I'd been diagnosed as well as prescribed meds for it but had figured out that I was able to compensate enough with behavior changes that I kept things at bay assuming I stayed active enough.

This last year or so was another level. I ended up tripling down on my normal coping mechanisms (exercise, BJJ, yoga, meditating, healthy eating, lots of socializing, building things at home, etc) and nothing really moved the needle. Its safe to say I hit was a "max effective dose" on everything and things weren't improving. Started seeing a therapist in either November and that has been life changing to say the least. That said it still wasn't quite enough and I would still regularly be flat lined by depression. I got on an NDRI about a month and a half ago and that coupled with everything else is finally brining some relief. At this point managing this has been like a full time job but I'm getting somewhere because the place I was was definitely no way to live.

A big trouble point on this stuff can be internalized stigmas and thoughts on mental health which just creates negative feedback loops that make things worse and worse. As weird as it may be the boxer Tyson Fury's story was revolutionary for me in accepting things as they are and removing that stigma for myself. His descriptions of the experience is really on point and I think its great to hear from someone like him on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITLlbs4cOX4&ab_channel=SelfMotivation

[Anomaly]

I have terrible anxiety, but I also have some terrible addictions that probably don't help matters. I get really afraid of interacting with people, it's a social phobia really, and I stress out and worry alot too, and then there are the panic attacks that come out of nowhere. Doc put me on paxil, didn't work, then the doc put me on Clonazepam which is a benzo, and it really helped matters in the short term. It's not a permanent fix though. I'm on too many drugs, prescribed and illegal drugs. Another thing that helped a bit is Magnesium supplements, try that.

[Dave]

I have terrible anxiety, but I also have some terrible addictions that probably don't help matters. I get really afraid of interacting with people, it's a social phobia really, and I stress out and worry alot too, and then there are the panic attacks that come out of nowhere. Doc put me on paxil, didn't work, then the doc put me on Clonazepam which is a benzo, and it really helped matters in the short term. It's not a permanent fix though. I'm on too many drugs, prescribed and illegal drugs. Another thing that helped a bit is Magnesium supplements, try that.

It's always good to mix illegal drugs with prescription drugs because there's nothing like throwing your doctor curve balls when trying to medicate your personality back in line.

What's the point of even going to the doctor in your frame of mind? You're just giving a bunch of BS data points on what "works" or "doesn't work" since you're fucking up the results with your own medication.

[Pepi]

I have terrible anxiety, but I also have some terrible addictions that probably don't help matters. I get really afraid of interacting with people, it's a social phobia really, and I stress out and worry alot too, and then there are the panic attacks that come out of nowhere. Doc put me on paxil, didn't work, then the doc put me on Clonazepam which is a benzo, and it really helped matters in the short term. It's not a permanent fix though. I'm on too many drugs, prescribed and illegal drugs. Another thing that helped a bit is Magnesium supplements, try that.

It's always good to mix illegal drugs with prescription drugs because there's nothing like throwing your doctor curve balls when trying to medicate your personality back in line.

What's the point of even going to the doctor in your frame of mind? You're just giving a bunch of BS data points on what "works" or "doesn't work" since you're fucking up the results with your own medication.

Like the part on your paperwork, you have to fill out. Do you drink alcohol? "Yes". How much? "Only two beers a day"

[ajaxlepinski]

Something diet soda drinkers should be aware of...

Phenylalanine is added to diet soda because, it is classified as a sweetener.
While it may be a sweetener, it's also an artificial dopamine.
Dopamine makes you feel good and your brain makes it on its own. Low dopamine levels are known to cause depression.
Cocaine and phenylalanine are BOTH recognized by your brain as dopamine.
When your dopamine levels are increased artificially, your brain stops producing it.
When you stop taking cocaine or phenylalanine, your brain takes two weeks before it starts producing its own dopamine.

I told my buddy, who delivers beer and soda this.
He said that his company allows drivers to drink all the soda they want while on the job. He added, "no wonder I have to crack open a diet coke first thing in the morning!"

[BroSlinger]

I take phenylalanine pills every day. Before I took them, I had to masturbate compulsively 5 times a day plus I cried during commercials. I was a fucking mess.

I don’t think I was making dopamine prior anyways so I’m comfortable with the results of taking them. Like medication.

[ajaxlepinski]

Glad that phenylalanine is helping you Geno.

I wish I had enough privacy to spank it 5 times a day... Man, I wish I could get one in a day!