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Hey guys, I am trying my best to understand these monitors and thought I would share with you what I have recorded today. Please tell me what you guys hear, and whether this sounds like shit or not...

I played my Yamaha AES720 directly into my interface. I used GuitarHack impulses with the ReCabinet 3.5 VST and the drums are BFD Eco. I used the Nick Crow Wagner Mk2 Sharp amp simulator VST.

Thanks :wave:

http://www.tonefinder.com/files/591370225332-Denial%20-%20BFD%20Eco.mp3

EDIT: Revamped version but with my GH50L preamp section instead of the Wagner VST
http://www.tonefinder.com/files/901370231876-Denial%20-%20BFD%20Eco(2).mp3

Cole
Last edited by colejustesen on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Sounds good! I like the tone, although I'd double track it and pan it left and right. The room mic(s) on the drums are totally squashed, but I dig it. The drums are probably too loud overall though.
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Markdude wrote:Sounds good! I like the tone, although I'd double track it and pan it left and right. The room mic(s) on the drums are totally squashed, but I dig it. The drums are probably too loud overall though.


Thanks bro... I didn't do any eq'ing on the drums, it was a preprocessed kit. I might have to try a dry kit and go from there. I will have to work on my guitar playing, it was pretty sloppy :facepalm: I imagine it would sound muddy and blurred if I put another guitar track down until I tighten up my playing.

Thanks for the input!!! Now, if I can get my stuff to sound like your recordings, I will be set :thu:

Cole
Amps
Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
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The drums are too loud and I agree with Mark on the guitar panning. The tone is good.
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colejustesen wrote:I will have to work on my guitar playing, it was pretty sloppy :facepalm: I imagine it would sound muddy and blurred if I put another guitar track down until I tighten up my playing.


I was going to comment on the slop, but I figured you knew and it was only a test anyway. Edit: now you've got me wanting to listen to the original. :thu:
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Filter500 wrote:
colejustesen wrote:I will have to work on my guitar playing, it was pretty sloppy :facepalm: I imagine it would sound muddy and blurred if I put another guitar track down until I tighten up my playing.


I was going to comment on the slop, but I figured you knew and it was only a test anyway.


Thanks for commenting! Damn, it is sloppy. Between my non-tight playing and a bit of latency I was really fouling it up. I definitely prefer doing a double track on guitars. I will try again, and lower the drums :thu:

Thanks!

Cole
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Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
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Filter500 wrote:
colejustesen wrote:I will have to work on my guitar playing, it was pretty sloppy :facepalm: I imagine it would sound muddy and blurred if I put another guitar track down until I tighten up my playing.


I was going to comment on the slop, but I figured you knew and it was only a test anyway. Edit: now you've got me wanting to listen to the original. :thu:


I have been enjoying the original all afternoon to figure out how to record it :D It is a great song! And it just kicks from the get go!

Cole
Amps
Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
V Boutique Vumble 2x12 (Heritage G12-65)
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I tried again... I messed with the drums and did 2 tracks with my Laney GH50L effects send. Hopefully this sounds better...

http://www.tonefinder.com/files/901370231876-Denial - BFD Eco(2).mp3

Cole
Amps
Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
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It's a definite improvement. Still sloppy in places, and this time the guitars are a little too loud compared to the drums.
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Filter500 wrote:It's a definite improvement. Still sloppy in places, and this time the guitars are a little too loud compared to the drums.


Son of a bitch... I will get this shit figured out, not tonight, maybe in a couple years... haha...

Thanks for taking the time to critique it for me! Back to the drawing boards!

EDIT: I just watched a video of Ola Englund on how he places a mic on his cabinets which I think will help me visualize what I want to achieve with my tone and how I mic my cabinets as well as approaching impulses from now on.

Cole
Amps
Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
V Boutique Vumble 2x12 (Heritage G12-65)
VHT FatBottom 2x12 (Eminence CV-75)
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Meelocheck wrote:Links don't work for me. Takes me to a Bing search page.


I don't know what happened, but they are good now.

Cole
Amps
Budda Superdrive II 30, 45; Superdrive V40
Hughes & Kettner Duotone
Laney GH100L
Peters Halo/Hydra
Rivera Chubster 40, M100
Rocktron Vendetta 100
VHT Pittbull 100/CL

Cabs
Avatar G412 (Jensen Blackbird 40)
Budda 2x12 Open Back (Jensen P12Q)
Budda 2x12 (Jensen C12K2)
Budda 4x12 (Eminence Cannabis Rex)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (Fane Medusa 150)
Hughes & Kettner CC412 (UK Greenback)
Mojotone Lite 1x12 (Celestion Hempback)
Rivera K412T (Eminence CV-75)
Splawn 2x12 (Fane M65)
V Boutique V Deluxe 1x12 (Celestion Ruby)
V Boutique Vumble 1x12 (Eminence Delta Pro 12A)
V Boutique Vumble 2x12 (Heritage G12-65)
VHT FatBottom 2x12 (Eminence CV-75)
VHT FatBottom 4x12 (Jensen Raptor 100)
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