Rap killed the guitar solo

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Re: Rap killed the guitar solo

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MacaroniSalad wrote:I also just feel I like the sound of guitars, drums and basses (produced tones) until like 1995, and then things get weird for me. Not related necessarily to guitar solos directly, but I feel semi-relevant to the topic.


I think I know what you are saying. If my memory serves me, it was the advent of Bro-Rock in the mid-late 1990's. There was a point around 1997 when everyone looked at the Billboard charts one day and asked two questions..... First was "Why is Garth Brooks #2?". The next question we all asked was "Who the fuck is Korn?"

It just hasn't been the same since.
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TurboPablo wrote:This discussion always cuts along generational lines. Which always leads to 2 conclusions.....

1) It will never end.

2) The 1980's smoke the 1990's and everything that came after it. Like it or not, it was the last original decade.

I agree with this. There have been some post 90s stuff I have loved, but obviously; formative years take precedence.
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What if rap and rock were to meet each other to form the perfect storm?
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JiveTurkey wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:This discussion always cuts along generational lines. Which always leads to 2 conclusions.....

1) It will never end.

2) The 1980's smoke the 1990's and everything that came after it. Like it or not, it was the last original decade.

I agree with this. There have been some post 90s stuff I have loved, but obviously; formative years take precedence.


I don't even think it's that. There is just so much that happened in the '80s that people don't even talk about. So many bands, so many albums and styles. It wasn't that a lot of ground was covered. The ground was still being broken. Hardcore, metal, pop, country, everything. And that doesn't even begin to mention how rap and hip hop took hold. Along with the beginnings of the digital revolution. The '80s were so far off the hook. Everything since has just been a retread.
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:lol:
Spoken like a true old man who thinks his particular formative years were the pinnacle.
You sound just like the other guitarist in my band who hasn't gotten into a new band since 2005 (when he was 19).
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Gatdamn right.
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The legalization of recreational marijuana will bring the 30 minute guitar solo back... mark my words! :rawk:
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ajaxlepinski wrote:The legalization of recreational marijuana will bring the 30 minute guitar solo back... mark my words! :rawk:


Looking at the kids in the legal states it seems more prone to mumble rap and dub step. :lol:
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Or terrible americana jam bands.
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"Mumble Rap"??? Is that for real??? :lol:


EDIT: Wikipedia to the resecue... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_rap
LOL!!! Mumble Rap!!!
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TurboPablo wrote:
JiveTurkey wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:This discussion always cuts along generational lines. Which always leads to 2 conclusions.....

1) It will never end.

2) The 1980's smoke the 1990's and everything that came after it. Like it or not, it was the last original decade.

I agree with this. There have been some post 90s stuff I have loved, but obviously; formative years take precedence.


I don't even think it's that. There is just so much that happened in the '80s that people don't even talk about. So many bands, so many albums and styles. It wasn't that a lot of ground was covered. The ground was still being broken. Hardcore, metal, pop, country, everything. And that doesn't even begin to mention how rap and hip hop took hold. Along with the beginnings of the digital revolution. The '80s were so far off the hook. Everything since has just been a retread.

I push it to around 2000. For me that is when music really stopped innovating. Then again maybe I'm just old and jaded now. :lol:
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Telephant wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:
JiveTurkey wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:This discussion always cuts along generational lines. Which always leads to 2 conclusions.....

1) It will never end.

2) The 1980's smoke the 1990's and everything that came after it. Like it or not, it was the last original decade.

I agree with this. There have been some post 90s stuff I have loved, but obviously; formative years take precedence.


I don't even think it's that. There is just so much that happened in the '80s that people don't even talk about. So many bands, so many albums and styles. It wasn't that a lot of ground was covered. The ground was still being broken. Hardcore, metal, pop, country, everything. And that doesn't even begin to mention how rap and hip hop took hold. Along with the beginnings of the digital revolution. The '80s were so far off the hook. Everything since has just been a retread.

I push it to around 2000. For me that is when music really stopped innovating. Then again maybe I'm just old and jaded now. :lol:



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The 80s did see the birth of thrash metal, (Metallica, Slayer, etc) rap, (pick a band) new wave (depeche mode, smiths, cure, etc) Alternative bands (REM, U2) and the mainstream acts like Prince, Madonna, Tom Petty, Micheal Jackson etc, etc and of course the Glam 'guitar driven rock' (Bon Jovi, Whiesnake, Ratt, Motley, Leppard, Dokken, etc).. You also had bands like Husker du, Sonic Youth, Dinasaur jr, the melvins who started the pre grunge movement


It was a REALLY diverse musical decade with Rock music being much more in the mainstream like soundtracks, commercials, etc, etc


I also love 90s rock as well, im a BIG FANBOY of that era as well, shit i even go up to early 2000s with Nu Metal :lol:


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Zozobra wrote:
Ostinato Rubato wrote:Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Much like whoever the dude on HCAF was who had the big tit fetish to the point you could tape a pair of balloons to a cow and he could successfully shake one out to it, I can't help but feel a lot of the jaded 80's shredder types couldn't give a shit about the song writing as long as some rent-a-weedly gets pushed out on stage for 32 bars to jerk off at high speed.



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^ lol

imho guitar solos killed the guitar solo. as with most social trends, popularity waxes and wanes; it is inevitable. guitar-centric music is waning. it will become more popular again though probably not as much as it was during its original incarnation and it may not be at the centerpiece but rather as part of an ensemble.
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Dick Butter Nuts wrote:
Zozobra wrote:
Ostinato Rubato wrote:Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Much like whoever the dude on HCAF was who had the big tit fetish to the point you could tape a pair of balloons to a cow and he could successfully shake one out to it, I can't help but feel a lot of the jaded 80's shredder types couldn't give a shit about the song writing as long as some rent-a-weedly gets pushed out on stage for 32 bars to jerk off at high speed.



Cow Balloon and The High Speed Jerk Offs would be a great band name.


I assume they're going to run their chorus pedals up front.
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