Rap killed the guitar solo

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Rap killed the guitar solo

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I'd say grunge was at the very least an accomplice, if not a contributor to the death of guitar solos. Thanks to grunge, a whole generation of kids grew up thinking if you could play a power chord you were an awesome guitar player. That genre lowered the bar for guitar playing, whereas rap has a minimal effect on the development of guitar players.
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MikeO wrote:I'd say grunge was at the very least an accomplice, if not a contributor to the death of guitar solos. Thanks to grunge, a whole generation of kids grew up thinking if you could play a power chord you were an awesome guitar player. That genre lowered the bar for guitar playing, whereas rap has a minimal effect on the development of guitar players.



Grunge was awesome at first. It brought passion back to music.
There were solos in grunge just much more simple.

The Beatles had less guitar solo’s.
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Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.
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I can see grunge as an accomplice, but solos didn't really die out until post grunge. The big 4 grunge acts all had guitar solos in most of their biggest hits.
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I just spent the last hour soloing. So I'd say it's alive. Who cares what's on FM radio. If you want to find new music with lead guitar, there's tons of it out there.
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Pepi killed messageboarding.
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Ostinato Rubato wrote:Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Much like whoever the dude on HCAF was who had the big tit fetish to the point you could tape a pair of balloons to a cow and he could successfully shake one out to it, I can't help but feel a lot of the jaded 80's shredder types couldn't give a shit about the song writing as long as some rent-a-weedly gets pushed out on stage for 32 bars to jerk off at high speed.
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Zozobra wrote:
Ostinato Rubato wrote:Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Much like whoever the dude on HCAF was who had the big tit fetish to the point you could tape a pair of balloons to a cow and he could successfully shake one out to it, I can't help but feel a lot of the jaded 80's shredder types couldn't give a shit about the song writing as long as some rent-a-weedly gets pushed out on stage for 32 bars to jerk off at high speed.


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Plenty of guitar solos in grunge, ignorant fucks.
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Yeah ... Grunge had a lot of solo work ??
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People that bitch about shredding guitar solo's usually can't play them.
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TurboPablo wrote:People that bitch about shredding guitar solo's usually can't play them.


I use to be able to do shred then I sold my Ibanez :(
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There was some nice guitar work in the 90s grunge era for sure (not as shreddy as 80 type stuff) but still there was some good guitar work in grunge era for sure

There was passion in 80s rock and lots in 90s rock as well, not sure what the point of that was
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The 90s had grunge but also had Extreme, Friedman-era Megadeth, Dream Theater, Big Wreck, Pantera, Zakk with Ozzy, P&G and BLS, Machine Head, RATM, VH's FUCK and Balance and a lot of other bands/albums with tons of solos. So can we stop saying guitar solos died in the 90s?
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GuitarBilly wrote: Who cares what's on FM radio


exactly.
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TurboPablo wrote:People that bitch about shredding guitar solo's usually can't play them.


Who gives a shit.
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TurboPablo wrote:Pepi killed messageboarding.


:bow: :lol:

And yeah, "grunge bands" didn't kill guitar, they just drove Fr00t rock to its demise.
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If anything killed the solo its time.
People crave novelty and once somethings been done to death (thanks 80s) its on to something new. People just don't guitar worship like they used to and thats ok, ebbs and flows man, we're all still here and playing (so far as I know).
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Ostinato Rubato wrote:Grunge brought back song writing from the 80’s dark ages.



I read something like this, and then I think:


"Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Hello, hello, hello"

I'm not sure that's any better than "don't need nothin, but a good time" :lol:


I think it's fair to say that the guitar solo as we knew it, doesn't exist anymore, and didn't really exist with the NEW bands that came out in the 90's. There was the whole "garage band" aspect, so, while there were solos, they were very "I've been playing for a year in my bedroom" - like, which, fit the songs to a T, but are a long way from "Stairway To Heaven" or "Sweet Child O Mine" and the like.

Of course, like everything, there are exceptions, like AIC and STP and the like.

Solos don't have to have a ton of notes to be called "good", but by the same token, just playing one melody line over and over again, or being sloppy on purpose, or not giving a shit what comes out when you play, doesn't automatically constitute a great solo either, IMO.
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This discussion always cuts along generational lines. Which always leads to 2 conclusions.....

1) It will never end.

2) The 1980's smoke the 1990's and everything that came after it. Like it or not, it was the last original decade.
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Thanks Pepi. I wondered what had happened to Brendan Fraser... :lol:
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I also just feel I like the sound of guitars, drums and basses (produced tones) until like 1995, and then things get weird for me. Not related necessarily to guitar solos directly, but I feel semi-relevant to the topic.
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