Too much size causing discomfort...

[gb74]

Yeah, I understand OCD I'm guilty of that too, but since my main distortion is from my amp, I always have a different pedal format between my old pedal and the amp footswitch and normally need 2 stomps to control them. It's really fine, you just need to plan your changes in advance...

[draelyc]

Yeah, I understand OCD I'm guilty of that too, but since my main distortion is from my amp, I always have a different pedal format between my old pedal and the amp footswitch and normally need 2 stomps to control them. It's really fine, you just need to plan your changes in advance...

Werd. That's what practice is for, right?

[draelyc]

As a side note, it's more gain than *I* would likely use more than once a year, but hitting the amp with both Riot & GR together does not yield a displeasing sound at all ~ in fact, it sounds pretty awesome for palm mute chugs & such. So it's not like a little lag time between switching one pedal & then the other is gonna sound ass, or anything. I might even use 'em both together on purpose some time!

[Marc G]

yeah... you need a big CAE switching system... can't play blues with out one.... post some pics when you're putting everything together...

[gb74]

As a side note, it's more gain than *I* would likely use more than once a year, but hitting the amp with both Riot & GR together does not yield a displeasing sound at all ~ in fact, it sounds pretty awesome for palm mute chugs & such. So it's not like a little lag time between switching one pedal & then the other is gonna sound ass, or anything. I might even use 'em both together on purpose some time!

Right, a lot of people use an OD pedal in front of a distorted amp anyway... I do that for my lead tones and heavy single note riffs.

But even if that is not the result you are looking for, I doubt the extra millisecond that it takes to turn the 2nd pedal on/off would be an issue.

With pedals, there is always some tap dancing involved unless you go to a full blown MIDI set up but that's overkill for most cases. Your board is not even that big to being with, you should be able to control it with no issues with some practice/planning.

[draelyc]

yeah... you need a big CAE switching system... can't play blues with out one.... post some pics when you're putting everything together...

I was trying to remember the name of the guy who essentially did just that... Damn, I hate getting old.

[Marc G]

on a serious note... I have to agree... unless you have to change multiple pedals, coordinate two or more amps frequently in a song and have someone to help you move all that extra gear, most players can make due without a switching system... I normally work out which order of switching has the least noticeable effect on my tone... so in the past where say I had to turn off a delay, phaser and Boost to come out of a solo, I would go Delay, phaser then boost. The delay had trails so you wouldn't notice it was turned off right away then the phaser since the delay trails kinda kept the phaser vibe there for a bit then off comes the boost... and granted that's over a 2 second time frame.. no one notices...

[draelyc]

Right, a lot of people use an OD pedal in front of a distorted amp anyway... I do that for my lead tones and heavy single note riffs.

But even if that is not the result you are looking for, I doubt the extra millisecond that it takes to turn the 2nd pedal on/off would be an issue.

With pedals, there is always some tap dancing involved unless you go to a full blown MIDI set up but that's overkill for most cases. Your board is not even that big to being with, you should be able to control it with no issues with some practice/planning.

Well I run the Plexi pretty dirty to start with; the Rhino is set as a boost (no pedal gain), and the Riot adds both a little volume and pedal-gain. But yeah, now that the new board is pretty much configured, I just need to practice with it. Gonna be a while yet before the new baby is old enough for me to start gigging again, anyway!

[draelyc]

on a serious note... I have to agree... unless you have to change multiple pedals, coordinate two or more amps frequently in a song and have someone to help you move all that extra gear, most players can make due without a switching system... I normally work out which order of switching has the least noticeable effect on my tone... so in the past where say I had to turn off a delay, phaser and Boost to come out of a solo, I would go Delay, phaser then boost. The delay had trails so you wouldn't notice it was turned off right away then the phaser since the delay trails kinda kept the phaser vibe there for a bit then off comes the boost... and granted that's over a 2 second time frame.. no one notices...

Right on. And when I was gigging, I rarely had more than two effects on at any given time. And the boosts (gain & volume) saw a LOT more action than all the other pedals combined, especially during a song. With the other boxes, I'd generally switch them on before beginning the song & leave them on for that song, y'know?

[Marc G]

on a serious note... I have to agree... unless you have to change multiple pedals, coordinate two or more amps frequently in a song and have someone to help you move all that extra gear, most players can make due without a switching system... I normally work out which order of switching has the least noticeable effect on my tone... so in the past where say I had to turn off a delay, phaser and Boost to come out of a solo, I would go Delay, phaser then boost. The delay had trails so you wouldn't notice it was turned off right away then the phaser since the delay trails kinda kept the phaser vibe there for a bit then off comes the boost... and granted that's over a 2 second time frame.. no one notices...

Right on. And when I was gigging, I rarely had more than two effects on at any given time. And the boosts (gain & volume) saw a LOT more action than all the other pedals combined, especially during a song. With the other boxes, I'd generally switch them on before beginning the song & leave them on for that song, y'know?

all that being said... Midi switchers are cool... you should definitely get one

[draelyc]

on a serious note... I have to agree... unless you have to change multiple pedals, coordinate two or more amps frequently in a song and have someone to help you move all that extra gear, most players can make due without a switching system... I normally work out which order of switching has the least noticeable effect on my tone... so in the past where say I had to turn off a delay, phaser and Boost to come out of a solo, I would go Delay, phaser then boost. The delay had trails so you wouldn't notice it was turned off right away then the phaser since the delay trails kinda kept the phaser vibe there for a bit then off comes the boost... and granted that's over a 2 second time frame.. no one notices...

Right on. And when I was gigging, I rarely had more than two effects on at any given time. And the boosts (gain & volume) saw a LOT more action than all the other pedals combined, especially during a song. With the other boxes, I'd generally switch them on before beginning the song & leave them on for that song, y'know?

all that being said... Midi switchers are cool... you should definitely get one

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