quality 212 for not a lot of money

For all discussions about electric, acoustic and bass guitars, guitar amps, effects, modelers this is the place!!!!!

Moderators: greatmutah, GuitarBilly

User avatar
_ej_
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 10351
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:47 am

quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by _ej_ »

What are some of the cheaper 212s that are actually decent?
Colonel, Fryette Deathsquad

Guitars:
Endres Offset
Endres Offset Les Paul
Endres Telebird
2005 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded
1978 Greco ES335
Balaguer Goliath Bass

Amplification:
VHT/Fryette Pittbull 50/CL
Marshall JCM900 2500
Vox AC30
Ashdown MAG420

clipless bumper
clipless
Posts: 20317
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:06 am
Location: 20 miles outside of Philly

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by clipless bumper »

what do you mean by 'cheaper'?

I see a lot of used 2x12's in the $300 range - which is cheaper than new prices.
But then I compare them to Marshall 4x12's which can be had for $300 all day - and they don't seem so cheap anymore.
User avatar
_ej_
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 10351
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:47 am

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by _ej_ »

I already got a badass 412. I want something lighter :lol:
Colonel, Fryette Deathsquad

Guitars:
Endres Offset
Endres Offset Les Paul
Endres Telebird
2005 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded
1978 Greco ES335
Balaguer Goliath Bass

Amplification:
VHT/Fryette Pittbull 50/CL
Marshall JCM900 2500
Vox AC30
Ashdown MAG420

User avatar
LukeBurke1
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1455
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:37 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by LukeBurke1 »

Can't really go wrong with Avatar. I use a Contemporary 2x12. Not only do they sound great for the price, but you can also get them in a bunch of different colors. Mine is blue with Fender-style grillcloth ;)
Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro II
Gibson SG-3
Gibson Les Paul Special
Vox AC30HWH
Janice Cabs 2x12 (Creamback 65s)


Good Deals with: rleechb, _ej_, phillbis, Axe, V/Rad Studios, boris the blade
User avatar
sleewell
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 9927
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:38 pm
Location: sitting in the waiting room

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by sleewell »

Avatar, whitebox (heavy tho), marshall, aftershock


Check tgp, used is the way to go for sure
clipless bumper
clipless
Posts: 20317
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:06 am
Location: 20 miles outside of Philly

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by clipless bumper »

The Mesa 2x12's are some of the most solid I have seen - you can usually pick them up for $350 or so.
Avatar has a bunch of nicer ones - I don't care for their original Fender-style series (Traditional), but the Orange-style (Contemporary), or Bluesbreaker-style (Vintage) are nice.\

Orange cabs are rock-solid - but are usually pricier than the rest.
The newer OB212 (open back) is cheaper, but I don't really care for open back, or the fact that they are made in China.

If you could find a Vader 2x12 with the rhino lining for a good price - that would alse be a very solid cab - but built more for heavy metal music.
User avatar
67mike
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1261
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:18 pm
Location: Slappin Ass.

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by 67mike »

The jet city 2x12 cab is well constructed and cheap as shit, the stock eminence speakers are flat sounding....they kill some fizz...but you could always swap in some other speakers if you feel the need.
Some geetars and an amp or two.
User avatar
DISTORT6
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 741
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:40 am
Location: New Jersey

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by DISTORT6 »

Buy used.
User avatar
Placemat Jackson
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 355
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:38 pm

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Placemat Jackson »

DISTORT6 wrote:Buy used.


I agree. Resale is terrible on on Avatars even though they are great cabs. I picked mine up used for $225 and it was basically brand new.

I'm sure you can find them even cheaper, I see them on CL all the time.
Jet Setters 2.0 (Jet ★ City Lounge Redux)

HCAF Expatriate
User avatar
roszatycki
Registered Member
Posts: 13
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:54 am
Location: Michigan

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by roszatycki »

+1 on the Avatar cab. I bought mine used and love the thing.
User avatar
Nateispro
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1648
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Nateispro »

roszatycki wrote:+1 on the Avatar cab. I bought mine used and love the thing.


I got a traditional 4x12 on blowout and love it, it's build really solid, no rattles, very well done fit and finish and it sounds great!! you can find them used for around 250 a lot of the time for a 2x12
Kiesel DC800
Ibanez RGD 7 Iron Label
79 Ibanez St-50
80 Ibanez Destroyer II
Kemper
Good deals: Shane159, Bloodnail, Steinmetzify, Madryan, Diocide, Madenotez
User avatar
Cflat
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 135
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:08 am
Location: NJ

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Cflat »

The Avatar Contemporary and LopoLine Signature are both cheaper cabs that are built well enough and sound good. They are modeled after the Orange 2x12. I personally wouldn't go any smaller than that for a 2x12. The smaller ones never sound nearly as good to me.

Splawn is also a good choice. About the same dimensions as the Avatar Contemporary. $400 unloaded. It's a little more expensive than Avatar, but not by much. Splawn 4x12s are among my favorites, so they make nice cabs.

*EDIT*
Apparently LopoLine changed the dimensions of their signature line. They are taller and not as deep. Probably similar to the Avatar Vintage.
-Formerly Sinnerx96
-Cflat Guitar Service for setups, fret jobs, pickup swaps, modifications, and amp biasing in Central NJ
User avatar
ovid9
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 10942
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 pm
Location: Cornfield, IL
Contact:

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by ovid9 »

A dude near me is selling an Avatar Contemporary 2x12 with V30s for $275. I wanna buy it, but I'm pretty set on 2x12s.... :lol:
Main Guitars: Gibson SG Classic, Agile AL3100, Fender Blacktop Telecaster
Amps: ACC150 (x2), Peavey VTM120, JCM600, Peavey Bravo, Yamaha THR5
Cabs: Mesa Halfback 2x12, Peavey 1810, Randall RS125CX
Rampage wrote:Oh, you can't play guitar because of your cats? What's next, you don't have sex with your wife because your vagina is acting up?


K-Bizzle wrote:There comes a point in every young mans life when he forsakes the skittles and mountain dew of his childhood for the beer and reese's of manhood.
SuperFlyinMonke
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 3402
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:30 pm

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by SuperFlyinMonke »

ovid9 wrote:A dude near me is selling an Avatar Contemporary 2x12 with V30s for $275. I wanna buy it, but I'm pretty set on 2x12s.... :lol:


I think you'd be disappointed to hear it beside your mesa cab, but you could just run them together.
User avatar
100 watt
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 5653
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:03 pm
Location: In the goddamn woods

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by 100 watt »

Sourmash, ftmfw
Murdoch wrote:Nothing I would do to her would be in the same country as hygenic. If it were, I would be actively devaluing the act, and we can't have that.



Good Deals With : Facing Failure (now Van_Muddlestein) . goodhonk . benjamin801. sublimeride. River Bend. Flying Milkman. Crunchtime. MickTaylorFan. ~Abstract~. colejustesen. paul88lx .guitarbilly74. Mike LX-R. Murdoch. Le_Marteau. matt rhoads.nwright.Mk2 Steve
User avatar
ovid9
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 10942
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 pm
Location: Cornfield, IL
Contact:

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by ovid9 »

SuperFlyinMonke wrote:I think you'd be disappointed to hear it beside your mesa cab, but you could just run them together.


I'm weaning myself off buying stuff on CL just because its a decent deal. Especially things that aren't easily to flip online like cabs and stuff. :lol:
Main Guitars: Gibson SG Classic, Agile AL3100, Fender Blacktop Telecaster
Amps: ACC150 (x2), Peavey VTM120, JCM600, Peavey Bravo, Yamaha THR5
Cabs: Mesa Halfback 2x12, Peavey 1810, Randall RS125CX
Rampage wrote:Oh, you can't play guitar because of your cats? What's next, you don't have sex with your wife because your vagina is acting up?


K-Bizzle wrote:There comes a point in every young mans life when he forsakes the skittles and mountain dew of his childhood for the beer and reese's of manhood.
User avatar
Marshredder
Registered Member
Posts: 50
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:51 pm

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Marshredder »

Just to repeat what others have said, I wouldn't go dirt cheap, but you can pick up used Marshall or Avatar 2x12's for very reasonable prices.

FWIW, I've owned Orange, Mesa, Two-Rock, Vox, etc cabs, and Marshall V30 cabs are the ones I find perform best in Live and Studio situations by a large margin.
User avatar
SexWithRobots
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 465
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:31 pm
Location: Chicago, IL

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by SexWithRobots »

I love my Whitebox cab and they have a good selection of WGS speakers to choose from.
User avatar
JerkN'Chips
Registered Member
Posts: 76
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:03 am

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by JerkN'Chips »

I see a ton of 4x12s loaded from 300-500 but 2x12s are harder to come by and when you do, they want just as much as the 4x12s....
User avatar
Dickarms
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 14084
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:19 pm
Location: Austin TX

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Dickarms »

JerkN'Chips wrote:I see a ton of 4x12s loaded from 300-500 but 2x12s are harder to come by and when you do, they want just as much as the 4x12s....

why the fuck is this, you reckon? i see this too. i mean, to be fair though, other than the price of the two speakers, its only a bit more wood so i know they wouldnt be half price, but more like 60-70% i would think.
Beer==>SG==>Pedals==>Orange TV50
Telephant wrote:C'mon down to Marshall town sweet tits. We're all having a helluva time. :cop:

ovid9 wrote:But, having three cats, I don't want to hurt their ears.

sleewell wrote:goop forever, thug life till I die bitch.

Dave Lister wrote:Ya'll motherfuckers don't need any or more better gear, ya'll need better ideas.

Good Deals: TU BE, Steveijobzz, MikeO, Pamuk Party, Heath
User avatar
Cirrus
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1352
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:16 am
Location: Midlands UK

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Cirrus »

It's because people are generally willing to pay for the convenience of a lighter cab I think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Band: http://www.captainhorizon.co.uk/
User avatar
Dickarms
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 14084
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:19 pm
Location: Austin TX

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Dickarms »

thats fucking stupid.
Beer==>SG==>Pedals==>Orange TV50
Telephant wrote:C'mon down to Marshall town sweet tits. We're all having a helluva time. :cop:

ovid9 wrote:But, having three cats, I don't want to hurt their ears.

sleewell wrote:goop forever, thug life till I die bitch.

Dave Lister wrote:Ya'll motherfuckers don't need any or more better gear, ya'll need better ideas.

Good Deals: TU BE, Steveijobzz, MikeO, Pamuk Party, Heath
User avatar
FastRedPonyCar
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 424
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:45 am
Location: All over Alabama

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by FastRedPonyCar »

My whitebox 2x12 is FAR superior IMO to my avatar 2x12 regardless of which speakers are in which.

My port city 2x12 is really good too but doesn't have nearly as huge of a stage presence as the whitebox.


My money is with the whitebox but if you want a virtually identical but superior built marshall or fender clone, get a mather cab. His prices are quite reasonable.

http://mathercab.com/
Tokai LS150, Charvel San Dimas, Strandberg Boden Standard, Martin GPC-Aura GT
Splawn "MUFASA" Nitro, Friedman Runt 50, Brit-Tone SLO+, MadRyan 50w Silver Jubilee
User avatar
Cirrus
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1352
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:16 am
Location: Midlands UK

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Cirrus »

Y0UNGBL00D wrote:thats fucking stupid.


Yep, but that's what people are for the most part.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Band: http://www.captainhorizon.co.uk/
Viesczy
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 751
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:36 pm

Re: quality 212 for not a lot of money

Post by Viesczy »

67mike wrote:The jet city 2x12 cab is well constructed and cheap as shit, the stock eminence speakers are flat sounding....they kill some fizz...but you could always swap in some other speakers if you feel the need.


I second that choice!

I wanted a cheap 2x12 so I picked up the convertible 2x12 to keep @ my GFs (along my my Avatar 2x12) to run my 5150 III 50 through it and I was nicely impressed with the tones out of all my amps that I have @ her place through the 2x12. IDK if I'd say that the stock speakers are flat sounding, in as far as a bad flat sounding, I'd say that they're a neutral speaker. I'd say that the tone from them is as good as my V12 loaded Avatar.

I got it from M123 for $230 NIB.

If I was going to so anything to it, I'd booger the cab to accept a 15", that's it.

Derek
Post Reply