question to the forum owner

Talk about subjects not related to music or gear. Please keep discussions civil and follow the GGF rules of conduct at all times. Political and religious topics are not allowed.

Moderators: greatmutah, GuitarBilly

User avatar
nightflameauto
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 15543
Joined: Thu May 30, 2013 10:29 pm
Contact:

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by nightflameauto »

freddy_mcShreddie wrote:Not once did I blame GAB for anyone's actions.

I merely pointed out the fact that the "el jeffe thread" portrayed dave friedman and company in a less than positive light.WITH PICTURES.

lots of venom spewed not at all related to the scameron debacle.

so it just seemed weird to me that it was moderator sanctioned/approved and not locked or deleted
as it was pretty harsh snd not exactly professional.
Why would you want to alienate toneworks/freidman amps?
they make a lot of cool stuff and dave has dropped a ton of technical knowledge over the years at rigtalk and the metro amp forum.
It's rare in most trades to have someone with as much technical knowledge and access to high end rig's of the music industry pros freely sharing basically everything on a public forum
I don't understand why you wouldn't invite that level discourse or wisdom/knowledge and knowingly sneer and piss on it.

As for brad's business dealings-whatever,i am not his apologist nor did I mean to come off sounding like one.
As for being called a troll.it seems as soon as you bring up an issue someone doesn't agree with or "like" you are labeled as such.
this has always seemed to be a pretty easy way out- "JUST LABEL IT "TROLL"
meanwhile the guys who posted all of the retarded 3rd grade latent homosexual nonsensical posts are not trolling?
oh ok
back to the dokkens !


So Billy allowing people to discuss something that's been a problem for more than just a couple of guys is "not exactly professional," but Brad King deleting any thread discussing the same subjects is professional? Is that the message you're trying to get across?

I've never seen Billy attempt to alienate anybody. He just lets people post what they wanna post. Hell, he's even allowing your ignorant ass to post here. On any other forum a callout of the owner with as much stupid as you've managed to shoehorn in there woulda been an insta-ban.
User avatar
Ostinato Rubato
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 35812
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:14 pm
Location: Fruitville, TX

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Ostinato Rubato »

freddy_mcShreddie wrote:"starfucker""?
nope,sorry
glad i pissed you off though!


you will never piss anyone off here because simply put you're not important enough to impact our general mood.




p.s. suck my dick? :idk:
EBMM Stingray Tobacco and Tort
Marshall 2555X Jubilee
Marshall 2536 2x12
CS Deja Vibe mkii > SupaTrem Jr. > Xotic Wah > OCD v2.0 > Fulldrive 2 mkii > TB Jailed Pitchblack > (Alter Ego x4)
User avatar
Sizzler
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 9227
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:23 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Sizzler »

nightflameauto wrote:
freddy_mcShreddie wrote:Not once did I blame GAB for anyone's actions.

I merely pointed out the fact that the "el jeffe thread" portrayed dave friedman and company in a less than positive light.WITH PICTURES.

lots of venom spewed not at all related to the scameron debacle.

so it just seemed weird to me that it was moderator sanctioned/approved and not locked or deleted
as it was pretty harsh snd not exactly professional.
Why would you want to alienate toneworks/freidman amps?
they make a lot of cool stuff and dave has dropped a ton of technical knowledge over the years at rigtalk and the metro amp forum.
It's rare in most trades to have someone with as much technical knowledge and access to high end rig's of the music industry pros freely sharing basically everything on a public forum
I don't understand why you wouldn't invite that level discourse or wisdom/knowledge and knowingly sneer and piss on it.

As for brad's business dealings-whatever,i am not his apologist nor did I mean to come off sounding like one.
As for being called a troll.it seems as soon as you bring up an issue someone doesn't agree with or "like" you are labeled as such.
this has always seemed to be a pretty easy way out- "JUST LABEL IT "TROLL"
meanwhile the guys who posted all of the retarded 3rd grade latent homosexual nonsensical posts are not trolling?
oh ok
back to the dokkens !


So Billy allowing people to discuss something that's been a problem for more than just a couple of guys is "not exactly professional," but Brad King deleting any thread discussing the same subjects is professional? Is that the message you're trying to get across?

I've never seen Billy attempt to alienate anybody. He just lets people post what they wanna post. Hell, he's even allowing your ignorant ass to post here. On any other forum a callout of the owner with as much stupid as you've managed to shoehorn in there woulda been an insta-ban.


Ok I will play too.

I could give 2 shits about Friedman modded amps or whatever. It sucks that people got screwed and I feel for em.

One of the reasons I joined this board was actually based on that thread plus others -
Billy allows folks to discuss their concerns. When it gets stupid - like with the thread about people getting offed/fucked in the ass/or whatever he sorts it out.

Freedom and all that (enjoyed responsibly)
User avatar
nightflameauto
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 15543
Joined: Thu May 30, 2013 10:29 pm
Contact:

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by nightflameauto »

pamukParty wrote:Ok I will play too.

I could give 2 shits about Friedman modded amps or whatever. It sucks that people got screwed and I feel for em.

One of the reasons I joined this board was actually based on that thread plus others -
Billy allows folks to discuss their concerns. When it gets stupid - like with the thread about people getting offed/fucked in the ass/or whatever he sorts it out.

Freedom and all that (enjoyed responsibly)


Wait, I missed a thread about necrophiliac anal? I swear, I turn my head for one second. . .
User avatar
Ostinato Rubato
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 35812
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:14 pm
Location: Fruitville, TX

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Ostinato Rubato »

^you must have been busy watching goat porn.
EBMM Stingray Tobacco and Tort
Marshall 2555X Jubilee
Marshall 2536 2x12
CS Deja Vibe mkii > SupaTrem Jr. > Xotic Wah > OCD v2.0 > Fulldrive 2 mkii > TB Jailed Pitchblack > (Alter Ego x4)
User avatar
Telephant
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 15907
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:44 pm
Location: Austin, TX

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Telephant »

Mike LX-R wrote:
freddy_mcShreddie wrote:"starfucker""?
nope,sorry
glad i pissed you off though!


you will never piss anyone off here because simply put you're not important enough to impact our general mood.




p.s. suck my dick? :idk:

And has obviously never seen me pissed cause that was Tele-pants-lite. :lol:
User avatar
Sizzler
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 9227
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:23 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Sizzler »

nightflameauto wrote:
pamukParty wrote:Ok I will play too.

I could give 2 shits about Friedman modded amps or whatever. It sucks that people got screwed and I feel for em.

One of the reasons I joined this board was actually based on that thread plus others -
Billy allows folks to discuss their concerns. When it gets stupid - like with the thread about people getting offed/fucked in the ass/or whatever he sorts it out.

Freedom and all that (enjoyed responsibly)


Wait, I missed a thread about necrophiliac anal? I swear, I turn my head for one second. . .


:lol:

my reading comprehension ain't so great so I let my imagination go sometimes and make up my own story
User avatar
Lloyd Blankfein
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1615
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Lloyd Blankfein »

I heard about some free dick sucking in here by Freddie kielbasa.

What number in line am I?

Btw, graduated college, get paid. Don't even play guitar but I'm here for lulz/illuminati.

U mad Freddie kielbasa?
User avatar
Sizzler
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 9227
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:23 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Sizzler »

although... I think that thread DID have something about ass play (TO THE SEARCH! :nerd: )
User avatar
Lloyd Blankfein
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1615
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Lloyd Blankfein »

Ass play? Freddie kielbasa gonna do some butthole pleasures too?

Damn, 2 for 1 Thursdays.
User avatar
Sizzler
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 9227
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:23 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Sizzler »

BACK FROM THE SEARCH ( :nerd: )
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8012&p=152744#p152744



Lloyd Blankfein wrote:Ass play? Freddie kielbasa gonna do some butthole pleasures too?

Damn, 2 for 1 Thursdays.



Sure seems like it!
User avatar
Marc G
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 11089
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:07 am
Location: Trinidad, West Indies

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Marc G »

freddy_mcShreddie wrote:"starfucker""?
nope,sorry
glad i pissed you off though!



The only person that seems to be getting pissed here is you...


bottom line... once you bring up the topic of Brad King, Friedman Amps, etc and anything associated with them that's not a rant about them ripping you off it will eventually boil down in to jokes...why? because these guys have handled the situation in the worst possible way to the point where it's unbelievable and deserves parody...

you came, asked a question of the site owner (and in the same breath accuse him of being a hypocrite) and got an answer from the site owner that clearly illustrated his POV.... but yet you still insist of insulting Dokken and say people are trolling.... come on man...
User avatar
Ostinato Rubato
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 35812
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:14 pm
Location: Fruitville, TX

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Ostinato Rubato »

Marc G wrote:
freddy_mcShreddie wrote:"starfucker""?
nope,sorry
glad i pissed you off though!



The only person that seems to be getting pissed here is you...


bottom line... once you bring up the topic of Brad King, Friedman Amps, etc and anything associated with them that's not a rant about them ripping you off it will eventually boil down in to jokes...why? because these guys have handled the situation in the worst possible way to the point where it's unbelievable and deserves parody...

you came, asked a question of the site owner (and in the same breath accuse him of being a hypocrite) and got an answer from the site owner that clearly illustrated his POV.... but yet you still insist of insulting Dokken and say people are trolling.... come on man...


:lol:

no crime goes unpunished at GAB

:lol:
EBMM Stingray Tobacco and Tort
Marshall 2555X Jubilee
Marshall 2536 2x12
CS Deja Vibe mkii > SupaTrem Jr. > Xotic Wah > OCD v2.0 > Fulldrive 2 mkii > TB Jailed Pitchblack > (Alter Ego x4)
User avatar
GuitarBilly
Chief Executive Owl
Posts: 48416
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:03 pm
Location: Rockville, MD
Contact:

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by GuitarBilly »

freddy_mcShreddie wrote:Not once did I blame GAB for anyone's actions.

I merely pointed out the fact that the "el jeffe thread" portrayed dave friedman and company in a less than positive light.WITH PICTURES.

lots of venom spewed not at all related to the scameron debacle.

so it just seemed weird to me that it was moderator sanctioned/approved and not locked or deleted
as it was pretty harsh snd not exactly professional.
Why would you want to alienate toneworks/freidman amps?
they make a lot of cool stuff and dave has dropped a ton of technical knowledge over the years at rigtalk and the metro amp forum.


These guys are more than welcome to post here. However, seeing that they are involved in a situation where tens of thousands of dollars were taken and nothing was ever delivered, they MIGHT want to clear that up before posting in any open forum or they might end up hearing stuff they don't want to. That's not my issue to solve for them.

But in fact, I have closed more threads about Cameron amps than any other single issue in this forum, because if it involves their personal lives or if there are any threats, I won't allow it here.

However, I don't blame people for the fact the thread has an angry, "unprofessional" tone to it.

I mean, the thread is about folks that took about $50k from customers (sometimes via PayPal gift) strung them along for 2 years, made them get their credit card companies involved to get their money back and some of it is still missing. And who's "unprofessional" again?

For any action, there is a reaction and a consequence, good or bad. You're responsible for the outcome of your own actions. That's something that most of us learn during our childhood. If anything, hopefully this type of backlash will prevent others from attempting to do something like this in the future.

At the end of the day, the "less than positive" tone of that thread is a direct result of their actions and not of my forum or moderation.

There are plenty of gear companies, big and small, with outstanding product AND business models out there and we welcome, support and applaud many of them here every day.

Thanks,

Billy
Guitars:
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters

Amps:
Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol

Cabs
Marshall 1960A w V30s/ Seismic 2x12 w Redback and V30.


Questions about the forum: please PM here. Can't access the forum? Need a password reset? Please access our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GuitarGearForumOfficial and message me through it.
User avatar
Telephant
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 15907
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:44 pm
Location: Austin, TX

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Telephant »

Ol' Billy Sticks droppin' knowledge. Well said brother.
User avatar
Reverse Entropy
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 1807
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:21 pm

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Reverse Entropy »

For whatever ills may be perceived to lurk in that thread, it has also served up some true clarity :

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7488&p=145046#p145046
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."(Hanlon's Razor)

"rock enough that I don't drown in ... jazz ennui" - draelyc

"...you realize that absolutely nothing happens when you get butthurt, right?
You know you're not going to go home and immediately have cancer, right?" - Steinmetzify
User avatar
TurboPablo
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 29154
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:27 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by TurboPablo »

nightflameauto wrote:
pamukParty wrote:Ok I will play too.

I could give 2 shits about Friedman modded amps or whatever. It sucks that people got screwed and I feel for em.

One of the reasons I joined this board was actually based on that thread plus others -
Billy allows folks to discuss their concerns. When it gets stupid - like with the thread about people getting offed/fucked in the ass/or whatever he sorts it out.

Freedom and all that (enjoyed responsibly)


Wait, I missed a thread about necrophiliac anal? I swear, I turn my head for one second. . .


Hey pal, nobody made you take a vacation :D










But we did beg you to come back cuz we was :( :cry:
User avatar
TurboPablo
Crystal Lettucer
Posts: 29154
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:27 am

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by TurboPablo »

Telephant wrote:
Mike LX-R wrote:
freddy_mcShreddie wrote:"starfucker""?
nope,sorry
glad i pissed you off though!


you will never piss anyone off here because simply put you're not important enough to impact our general mood.




p.s. suck my dick? :idk:

And has obviously never seen me pissed cause that was Tele-pants-lite. :lol:


You beat me too it.

I'm like "pissed"?

That's regular conversation around here.
User avatar
Loop Bizkit
Hall of Fame Member
Posts: 4583
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:02 pm

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by Loop Bizkit »

I came in here because I did a search for Dokken, and this thread showed up.

WHERE IS THE DOKKEN I WANT TO LEARN DOKKEN PLAYING!?!
EndTime wrote:It’s a forum of Loops :D .
User avatar
GuitarBilly
Chief Executive Owl
Posts: 48416
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:03 pm
Location: Rockville, MD
Contact:

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by GuitarBilly »

Alright, closing this for now as the last thing I want to deal with is more Cameron/Rig Talk drama. There is already a thread about it going on and that's enough.

I suppose by the title that the purpose of this thread was to ask me a question, which I responded to the full extent of what I am willing to discuss with you.

Also, you don't have to like or post here but if you do, please read and follow the forum rules from now on:


8. Suggestions, questions or concerns about forum features or functionality or concerns about forum moderators or policies should be sent via email or PM only


Suggestions, questions or concerns about forum new features, functionality, moderation, policies and usability must be sent via email or PM to the forum administrator ONLY. Please do not create threads about these topics, they will be deleted/locked and repeat offenders will be banned.

Please read this reminder, which is part of the user's agreement you agreed to when you became a member:
The moderators have the right to delete or edit anything at all, without any requirement to explain our actions. Opening threads or posting in existing threads to complain about a moderator, or any of his actions or decisions is not allowed. If you have an issue with a moderator, please PM the site admin. Keep in mind, however, that the mods and admin often communicate with each other and are on the same page
.


Thanks,

Billy
Guitars:
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters

Amps:
Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol

Cabs
Marshall 1960A w V30s/ Seismic 2x12 w Redback and V30.


Questions about the forum: please PM here. Can't access the forum? Need a password reset? Please access our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GuitarGearForumOfficial and message me through it.
User avatar
GuitarBilly
Chief Executive Owl
Posts: 48416
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:03 pm
Location: Rockville, MD
Contact:

Re: question to the forum owner

Post by GuitarBilly »

Loop wrote:I came in here because I did a search for Dokken, and this thread showed up.

WHERE IS THE DOKKEN I WANT TO LEARN DOKKEN PLAYING!?!

and also: :lol:
Guitars:
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters

Amps:
Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol

Cabs
Marshall 1960A w V30s/ Seismic 2x12 w Redback and V30.


Questions about the forum: please PM here. Can't access the forum? Need a password reset? Please access our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GuitarGearForumOfficial and message me through it.
Locked