Spent the day listening to Am talk whilst running errands...

[madryan]

OMFG lol...

So I learned some valuable things...

The Muslim Brotherhood was responsible for 911 (according to a caller to Mike Huckabee's show with which he agreed)
The Muslim Brotherhood instigated the chemical attack in Syria so they could take over the world (According to the guy standing in for Glenn Beck)

The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price?

According to Rush everything is Obama's fault, including the current sluggish Economy and associated debt (lolz...) Oh and Obamacare.

Some guy who I didn't recognize was such a crackpot I couldn't even follow what he was saying. The gist was that all Muslims are evil bastards who want to convert or kill us poor Christians (present company excluded since Christians tend to want to convert me too)

Overwhelmingly the tone from the callers and the Faux News soundbites was Fear. Pure, unadulterated fear. Fear of that which is different, either ideologically, or cosmetically.

Interesting day...

[ShaneV]

Have you accused anyone of takin' yer jerb yet? That's when you know it's too late to turn back.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Have you accused anyone of takin' yer jerb yet? That's when you know it's too late to turn back.

I employ guys that take yer jerbs



COME AT ME BRO, TAKING YOUR LETTUCE HARVESTING JOBS

[madryan]

Just use with caution man, and remember moderation is the key. When you find yourself thinking that tinfoil might make appropriate head gear, that you should invest all your money in gold, and that Reagan may have actually been the second coming, then you know it's time to put it down for awhile.

lol the gold thing...

There's always been those commercials but since precious metals corrected the commercials now say "this recent dip in the market makes now the perfect time to buy in. Gold and Silver are still a great investment. Remember, governments just print money out of thin air" lol

[madryan]

Have you accused anyone of takin' yer jerb yet? That's when you know it's too late to turn back.

I employ guys that take yer jerbs



COME AT ME BRO, TAKING YOUR LETTUCE HARVESTING JOBS

I used to be the only (relatively) white kid on an all Latino commercial landscaping crew during the summers between terms. Gringos just don't want to work that hard.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I listen to channel 540am, the one that broadcasts all Obama's accomplishments. I been listening for 5 years and nothing ever comes on, just white noise.


I think the wires in my truck are fucked up because nothing ever gets broadcasted.

[madryan]

I listen to channel 540am, the one that broadcasts all Obama's accomplishments. I been listening for 5 years and nothing ever comes on, just white noise.


I think the wires in my truck are fucked up because nothing ever gets broadcasted.

I listen to the Wintersun channel on Pandora typically, that or Animals as Leaders. I hate being fed my own opinion.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Have you accused anyone of takin' yer jerb yet? That's when you know it's too late to turn back.

I employ guys that take yer jerbs



COME AT ME BRO, TAKING YOUR LETTUCE HARVESTING JOBS

I used to be the only (relatively) white kid on an all Latino commercial landscaping crew during the summers between terms. Gringos just don't want to work that hard.

Grab this:


This:


And this:




Play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzEgfCwzJU









LOL TAKING UR CAULIFLOWER JERBS!

[clipless bumper]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Have you accused anyone of takin' yer jerb yet? That's when you know it's too late to turn back.

I employ guys that take yer jerbs



COME AT ME BRO, TAKING YOUR LETTUCE HARVESTING JOBS

I used to be the only (relatively) white kid on an all Latino commercial landscaping crew during the summers between terms. Gringos just don't want to work that hard.

I do all day and constantly joke with the meksicans that mexico soccer sucks and italia is better and that we built america in the 20's not them.


It's a constant battle/rivalry. Last season they tried to take down my flag and hang the mexico flag.


This year I got a whole bag of tricks for them. Guys are money.

[madryan]

Selena was unbelievably hot... Dat Ass!

[madryan]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Selena was unbelievably hot... Dat Ass!

Stop treating women like objects you chauvinistic racist.

[madryan]

Selena was unbelievably hot... Dat Ass!

Stop treating women like objects you chauvinistic racist.

Hey... It's not my fault white chicks just can't rock a set of stretchy pants like a Latina.

[clipless bumper]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

energy independent has nothing to do with prices.
If we could produce enough oil to satisfy all our oil needs, WITHOUT buying any from other countries - that is energy independent.

If you want to get into the subsidies and incentives the government may offer to get the oil companies to keep our oil here, and at a reasonable price - then I guess you are getting into the 'socialism' aspect of it.

[clipless bumper]

I'm not advocating it - but that is exactly what I was referring to in the last sentence of my post.

I guess if you buy into the 'big business is evil' - then that is the only way to go.
Maybe it is too late to go back, but 'big business' (and the American public) sure pulled together and won WWII for this country.

[madryan]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

energy independent has nothing to do with prices.
If we could produce enough oil to satisfy all our oil needs, WITHOUT buying any from other countries - that is energy independent.

If you want to get into the subsidies and incentives the government may offer to get the oil companies to keep our oil here, and at a reasonable price - then I guess you are getting into the 'socialism' aspect of it.

Energy independence means not depending on a finite, non-renewable commodity for your energy needs. Pumping petrol out of the ground till it runs out and the whole world crashes is pretty much idiotic seeing as we've got no viable plan B.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Also, I would say that it was not just big business and the American public that won WWII for the world (it was not just America that won WWII). Here at home it was.....

You forgot one huge block of people, and I constantly remind all the whiteys out there everytime they go on some stupid assed rant.


The mexicans.


The mexicans kept this country fed by working/running-in/on/around the farms. The bracero program allowed them to legally enter the country and tend to all the farms. Keeping the american women, children and elderly fed, strong and secure through produce/meat/milk, etc.


The same people that dipshits love to hate now a days. These guys came up here and made it happen, held down the damn fort. No one remembers that either. No one.

[clipless bumper]

I'm not advocating it - but that is exactly what I was referring to in the last sentence of my post.

I guess if you buy into the 'big business is evil' - then that is the only way to go.
Maybe it is too late to go back, but 'big business' (and the American public) sure pulled together and won WWII for this country.

..............Here at home it was the women's movement which prepared women for high demand grueling industrial jobs, the populace's willingness to sacrifice from the top to the bottom (ala JFK and George H.W. both distinguishing themselves with valor, the American public going without basic goods such as sugar to supply the troops), and let's not forget that it was also the resilience of people across the European continent that had maybe more to do with defeating Germany than any other thing. ............

I definitely agree with all of this.
Has our country 'evolved' to the point where none of this is possible, feasible, or even plausible?

this 'lack' is going to be the our undoing.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I was going to add, that you can still see a lot of the bracero presence in the Salinas [pajaro] Valley of California. Many of my friends whom farm there had great great grandparents who were in the bracero program. Damn fine and proud men and women, rightfully so.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

Also, I would say that it was not just big business and the American public that won WWII for the world (it was not just America that won WWII). Here at home it was.....

You forgot one huge block of people, and I constantly remind all the whiteys out there everytime they go on some stupid assed rant.


The mexicans.


The mexicans kept this country fed by working/running-in/on/around the farms. The bracero program allowed them to legally enter the country and tend to all the farms. Keeping the american women, children and elderly fed, strong and secure through produce/meat/milk, etc.


The same people that dipshits love to hate now a days. These guys came up here and made it happen, held down the damn fort. No one remembers that either. No one.

Yeah, funny how that shit isn't ever mentioned in history class or any war documentaries. No, brown people didn't do anything, white Christian know how is the secret to all our successes.

Cheers my man.

[madryan]

Also, I would say that it was not just big business and the American public that won WWII for the world (it was not just America that won WWII). Here at home it was.....

You forgot one huge block of people, and I constantly remind all the whiteys out there everytime they go on some stupid assed rant.


The mexicans.


The mexicans kept this country fed by working/running-in/on/around the farms. The bracero program allowed them to legally enter the country and tend to all the farms. Keeping the american women, children and elderly fed, strong and secure through produce/meat/milk, etc.


The same people that dipshits love to hate now a days. These guys came up here and made it happen, held down the damn fort. No one remembers that either. No one.

I live in an area with about 40% Latino's. Great folks. Most of them are 2nd or 3rd gen farm or orchard workers and now their kids are going to the University with me. Fucking awesome.

[clipless bumper]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

energy independent has nothing to do with prices.
If we could produce enough oil to satisfy all our oil needs, WITHOUT buying any from other countries - that is energy independent.

If you want to get into the subsidies and incentives the government may offer to get the oil companies to keep our oil here, and at a reasonable price - then I guess you are getting into the 'socialism' aspect of it.

Energy independence means not depending on a finite, non-renewable commodity for your energy needs. Pumping petrol out of the ground till it runs out and the whole world crashes is pretty much idiotic seeing as we've got no viable plan B.

I missed this post.

Anyway - back to the op - there is no way (however stupid) that the commentators were saying that we could be energy independent for all eternity by drilling for more oil.

but there is a benefit to being energy independent NOW - while we develop the next energy source.
There are plenty to investigate - solar, tidal, geothermal, hydro, etc.

On a somewhat related note - I find it hard to believe that nobody has run for president yet on the platform of pulling our military back home, stopping our enormous foreign aid packages, and putting America first. It will happen (somebody running on this platform), and I bet they get a LOT of support.

[clipless bumper]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

energy independent has nothing to do with prices.
If we could produce enough oil to satisfy all our oil needs, WITHOUT buying any from other countries - that is energy independent.

If you want to get into the subsidies and incentives the government may offer to get the oil companies to keep our oil here, and at a reasonable price - then I guess you are getting into the 'socialism' aspect of it.

Energy independence means not depending on a finite, non-renewable commodity for your energy needs. Pumping petrol out of the ground till it runs out and the whole world crashes is pretty much idiotic seeing as we've got no viable plan B.

I missed this post.

Anyway - back to the op - there is no way (however stupid) that the commentators were saying that we could be energy independent for all eternity by drilling for more oil.

but there is a benefit to being energy independent NOW - while we develop the next energy source.
There are plenty to investigate - solar, tidal, geothermal, hydro, etc.

On a somewhat related note - I find it hard to believe that nobody has run for president yet on the platform of pulling our military back home, stopping our enormous foreign aid packages, and putting America first. It will happen (somebody running on this platform), and I bet they get a LOT of support.

[madryan]

..........The US could be 100% Energy Independent if we only drilled for more oil (According to Sean Hannity)
ironically, the very same Sean Hannity demonized Socialists at least 100 times while I was listening to him and implied that free markets are the way to go.

So Sean, how is it exactly that we're supposed to pump a commodity out of the ground that sells for $110 a barrel and which has an almost completely inelastic demand curve, and not let the market set the price? ........

I'm not following you on this one.
Not sure what the price of oil on the world market has to do with our ability to supply ourselves with oil.

or how saying that we could be 'energy inddependent' has anything to do with socialism.

Being a shrieker for capitalism then implying that we could some how control prices on a globally traded commodity is somewhat jacked IMO. We could pump oil out of the ground all day and night as fast as we could and all it would do was make us run out faster.

energy independent has nothing to do with prices.
If we could produce enough oil to satisfy all our oil needs, WITHOUT buying any from other countries - that is energy independent.

If you want to get into the subsidies and incentives the government may offer to get the oil companies to keep our oil here, and at a reasonable price - then I guess you are getting into the 'socialism' aspect of it.

Energy independence means not depending on a finite, non-renewable commodity for your energy needs. Pumping petrol out of the ground till it runs out and the whole world crashes is pretty much idiotic seeing as we've got no viable plan B.

I missed this post.

Anyway - back to the op - there is no way (however stupid) that the commentators were saying that we could be energy independent for all eternity by drilling for more oil.

but there is a benefit to being energy independent NOW - while we develop the next energy source.
There are plenty to investigate - solar, tidal, geothermal, hydro, etc.

On a somewhat related note - I find it hard to believe that nobody has run for president yet on the platform of pulling our military back home, stopping our enormous foreign aid packages, and putting America first. It will happen (somebody running on this platform), and I bet they get a LOT of support.

Actually, there's zero benefit to being energy independent. You want market forces putting pressure on folks to come up with new ideas, not just philanthropic people with limited funding.

It doesn't matter where the oil is pumped out of the ground geographically, it's all owned by a relatively small group of companies. Unless someone is advocating nationalizing our oil (not necessarily a "bad" thing) then we can pump oil day and night and it'll get sold to the highest bidder regardless because my and your elected officials fucked us over and essentially gave away our very valuable resources to these companies.

I'm sure the junkets and the jets and the campaign donations were nice though.