I almost don't want to live in America anymore...

[Dave]

Diapers aren't that expensive bros.

I spend like $35 a week give or take depending on if they're on sale or not. 2 kids.

Oh and one is still on formula at $35 a week.






Daycare on the other hand was $2500 a month after dual kid discount. That was killing me so we just switched to a home based daycare saving $700 a month. Gonna feel that soon That said, neither place was making the owners rich. It costs money to employ people, costs money for insurance, etc.


That said, I don't think we need to make it easier to give hand outs. It's harsh but too many people see that option and re-appropriate money toward useless shit when the government is picking up the slack.

How many people are on welfare, Medicare or whatever because they don't want to pay for health insurance at work? How many people skirt the system on technicality so they can buy weed, gear, TV's, other short sited crap like going out to eat nonstop? Those people ruin it for the truly needy.

How many people avoid real work because its easier to stick their hand out?

[sleewell]

^1000% all that.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

If you though the OP was just about diapers then obviously you are one of the people who can't think. He was using the diaper example to make a larger point.

You're right, the OP was originally about having no control over impregnating someone.

Lets get back on topic and discuss how stupid the OP is.

[Telephant]

You're right, the OP was originally about having no control over impregnating someone.

.

That's obviously not how he meant it.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

honestly though if you dont like this country either help fix it or GTFO. no sense complaining about it online like everyone else seems to be doing these days. where are you going to go? its not perfect here but where is better?


I fucking love where I live, love my state and love my job and what I do. If I didnt i would make changes, not whine about it on some forum.

Me too. We just picked up a big hunk of land less than 4 miles from the California Ocean to expand operations.

Decided we better move down there, lol.

Oceanfront here I come.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

You're right, the OP was originally about having no control over impregnating someone.

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That's obviously not how he meant it.

It's more hilarious to think of it in those terms.

Btw, I was on dirty 6th Saturday night getting hammer time on some 2nd story balcony/bar.

[Dickarms]

where is the california ocean? i was in the navy. missed it on all the charts

[Dickarms]

You're right, the OP was originally about having no control over impregnating someone.

.

That's obviously not how he meant it.

It's more hilarious to think of it in those terms.

Btw, I was on dirty 6th Saturday night getting hammer time on some 2nd story balcony/bar.

true. should have let me know, i was catching a friends band at REF.

[sleewell]

honestly though if you dont like this country either help fix it or GTFO. no sense complaining about it online like everyone else seems to be doing these days. where are you going to go? its not perfect here but where is better?


I fucking love where I live, love my state and love my job and what I do. If I didnt i would make changes, not whine about it on some forum.

Me too. We just picked up a big hunk of land less than 4 miles from the California Ocean to expand operations.

Decided we better move down there, lol.

Oceanfront here I come.

baller^

i led the dept again this month by a huge margin. next month i am selling myself an investment property with a long term tenant already in place and getting paid a commsion to do so. getting married in oct then taking two weeks in costa rica in nov. really doesnt get much better.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

where is the california ocean? i was in the navy. missed it on all the charts

I could have said "Pacific Ocean" but that includes the coasts from Mexico to Washington.

Trying to zero it in.

[Dave]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

[Lloyd Blankfein]

You're right, the OP was originally about having no control over impregnating someone.

.

That's obviously not how he meant it.

It's more hilarious to think of it in those terms.

Btw, I was on dirty 6th Saturday night getting hammer time on some 2nd story balcony/bar.

true. should have let me know, i was catching a friends band at REF.

I can't remember the bar name. We started on east/dirty 6th and worked towards the ghey 6th. Actually, started at guerro tacos in soco. Wanted to see the bats but got too drunk/late so just aborted to 6th.

Played at some game bar for a little while as well- whipped that ass in shuffleboard.

[Dickarms]

wait, east 6th is east 6th. west 6th is dirty 6th. wheres ghey 6th? you mean 5th?

[madryan]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

[Lloyd Blankfein]

wait, east 6th is east 6th. west 6th is dirty 6th. wheres ghey 6th? you mean 5th?

I was told the 6th on the east is the ghetto/dirty 6th where everything on the other side of capital is the new 6th.

Who knows. I'll be here another couple days until I decide to go back to work. Vacation is nice.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

The same reason Al gore, joy behar and Oprah do. Because they can. They earned the right, you didnt.

They make money, you don't.






Would it be unfair if I went out in 8 months and purchased a Jet for myself? Would you complain about it?

Did I earn it?

[Dave]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

That didn't answer my question.


What does an unemployed 'housewife' need a smartphone for? Especially one that sits at home intentionally collecting welfare because her spouse doesn't want to pay for health insurance that might cut in to his weed habit?

[madryan]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

The same reason Al gore, joy behar and Oprah do. Because they can. They earned the right, you didnt.

They make money, you don't.






Would it be unfair if I went out in 8 months and purchased a Jet for myself? Would you complain about it?

Did I earn it?

So wait... they earned the right to pay roughly half the tax rate I used to pay whilst making roughly 100x more?

How exactly did he "Earn" that? By being born with a trust fund?

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

The same reason Al gore, joy behar and Oprah do. Because they can. They earned the right, you didnt.

They make money, you don't.






Would it be unfair if I went out in 8 months and purchased a Jet for myself? Would you complain about it?

Did I earn it?

So wait... they earned the right to pay roughly half the tax rate I used to pay whilst making roughly 100x more?

How exactly did he "Earn" that? By being born with a trust fund?

He earned the opportunity by working his ass off so he would call into that bracket. Used his brain to invest wisely. His trust fund is none of your business.

So answer the question, if I bought a jet, is that unfair? Did I earn it?


Why do you have such a boner for a old white guy. Why don't you call-out and follow all the rich liberals too?

Are you mad?

[madryan]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

That didn't answer my question.


What does an unemployed 'housewife' need a smartphone for? Especially one that sits at home intentionally collecting welfare because her spouse doesn't want to pay for health insurance that might cut in to his weed habit?

Have you ever looked up statistics on who actually gets assistance? Most of the recipients are kids. Most of the adult recipients are employed. Most of them are using it as a stop-gap to keep from ending up in the ditch.

I have a cell phone. I'm the sole parent of my kid and I'm never at home and my daycare needs to be able to get hold of me should something untoward happen. Similarly, it's cheaper to have a cell phone than a landline, at least in my area.

People let their confirmation bias run wild on this subject. They see someone buy 6 slurpees with their food stamps and assume that's everyone on the program but that's simply not the truth.

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

That didn't answer my question.


What does an unemployed 'housewife' need a smartphone for? Especially one that sits at home intentionally collecting welfare because her spouse doesn't want to pay for health insurance that might cut in to his weed habit?

Have you ever looked up statistics on who actually gets assistance? Most of the recipients are kids. Most of the adult recipients are employed. Most of them are using it as a stop-gap to keep from ending up in the ditch.

I have a cell phone. I'm the sole parent of my kid and I'm never at home and my daycare needs to be able to get hold of me should something untoward happen. Similarly, it's cheaper to have a cell phone than a landline, at least in my area.

People let their confirmation bias run wild on this subject. They see someone buy 6 slurpees with their food stamps and assume that's everyone on the program but that's simply not the truth.

You are a broke housewife? Did you comprehend his question?

The cause and correlation is you see a guy with 6 slurpees on food stamps and believe everyone isn't like that. What if they are?

[madryan]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

The same reason Al gore, joy behar and Oprah do. Because they can. They earned the right, you didnt.

They make money, you don't.






Would it be unfair if I went out in 8 months and purchased a Jet for myself? Would you complain about it?

Did I earn it?

So wait... they earned the right to pay roughly half the tax rate I used to pay whilst making roughly 100x more?

How exactly did he "Earn" that? By being born with a trust fund?

He earned the opportunity by working his ass off so he would call into that bracket. Used his brain to invest wisely. His trust fund is none of your business.

So answer the question, if I bought a jet, is that unfair? Did I earn it?


Why do you have such a boner for a old white guy. Why don't you call-out and follow all the rich liberals too?

Are you mad?

Bwaaaa ha ha

You don't know dick about finance and preferential treatment of capital gains and dividend income do you?

Ole Mitt, and many in his tax bracket pay no more than 15% on their income because they derive it from 1) dividends, or 2) Capital Gains on stocks or Bond sales.

So Mitt makes his money whether he's jerking off or mowing his lawn. Doesn't matter. Why should he get preferential treatment on that income over say, someone who owns a Restaurant and works 90hours a week?

[***1776***]

Flat tax across the board FTMFW


I laugh when people bitch about taxes and get amnesia or forget who also pays taxes in school districts (upwards of $12-$15K a year and more in NY) and pay more taxes. Also Some 40% of the USA population pay almost no income taxes, nothing, zero, nada, zilch!

.......... "The My life sucks because of some rich guys" is kinda sad ideology and im seeing it more and more today. Its like looking in my neighbors window and being jealous because they have a 55" Plasma TV and I dont, therefore I have to blame someone or be angry somehow

I just don't understand this philosophy I really don't

[Lloyd Blankfein]

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

The same reason Al gore, joy behar and Oprah do. Because they can. They earned the right, you didnt.

They make money, you don't.






Would it be unfair if I went out in 8 months and purchased a Jet for myself? Would you complain about it?

Did I earn it?

So wait... they earned the right to pay roughly half the tax rate I used to pay whilst making roughly 100x more?

How exactly did he "Earn" that? By being born with a trust fund?

He earned the opportunity by working his ass off so he would call into that bracket. Used his brain to invest wisely. His trust fund is none of your business.

So answer the question, if I bought a jet, is that unfair? Did I earn it?


Why do you have such a boner for a old white guy. Why don't you call-out and follow all the rich liberals too?

Are you mad?

Bwaaaa ha ha

You don't know dick about finance and preferential treatment of capital gains and dividend income do you?

Ole Mitt, and many in his tax bracket pay no more than 15% on their income because they derive it from 1) dividends, or 2) Capital Gains on stocks or Bond sales.

So Mitt makes his money whether he's jerking off or mowing his lawn. Doesn't matter. Why should he get preferential treatment on that income over say, someone who owns a Restaurant and works 90hours a week?

Why should he not?

I can be like you and sit here and bitch about all the rich guys in the world who don't affect me or I can go out and get it done so that one day I can be like them.

You keep whining, I'll keep earning.

[Dickarms]

i dont agree with the lower taxes for the wealthy, i also dont believe in the bullshit robin hood higher taxes either. flat percentage, across the board. disagree with that? you are either fucking greedy or fucking jealous.

I hate paying for people that take advantage of the system.


Why do poor people need smart phones? Big screen TV's? Wtf

Why does Mitt Romney need a $5million dollar tax break every year when he owns more houses than I own underwear?

That didn't answer my question.


What does an unemployed 'housewife' need a smartphone for? Especially one that sits at home intentionally collecting welfare because her spouse doesn't want to pay for health insurance that might cut in to his weed habit?

Have you ever looked up statistics on who actually gets assistance? Most of the recipients are kids. Most of the adult recipients are employed. Most of them are using it as a stop-gap to keep from ending up in the ditch.

I have a cell phone. I'm the sole parent of my kid and I'm never at home and my daycare needs to be able to get hold of me should something untoward happen. Similarly, it's cheaper to have a cell phone than a landline, at least in my area.

People let their confirmation bias run wild on this subject. They see someone buy 6 slurpees with their food stamps and assume that's everyone on the program but that's simply not the truth.

i hear this argument all of the time.

yet, in IRL, amount of people i see/know who fit that description : 0
number of people i see/know who are shithead abusers of the system: fuck ton.

idealize the poor all you want, a good deal of them are that way, and will remain that way, and will complain about being that way, and will ask for assistance in being that way, because it is what they know and they have enough little side games, etc. to get the shit they "need" to feel involved.
a good deal of rich people are fucking assholes, entitled pricks. im no picking on either, just trying to be realistic. and realistically, my back should bend only a certain, regulated amount for either.