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There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:15 pm
by soulsurfer

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:56 pm
by DoubleBarrel
soulsurfer wrote::mad:
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BUT-BUT-BUT............

MadRyan promised me that Bill Clinton stopped all that :rofl:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:57 pm
by sleewell
guys its the most efficient govt program with very little actual fraud. nothing to see here, move along.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:07 pm
by DoubleBarrel
sleewell wrote:guys its the most efficient govt program with very little actual fraud. nothing to see here, move along.


Please tell me I am smelling sarcasm. :idk:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:07 pm
by sleewell
i sure hope so, i was laying it on pretty thick

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:09 pm
by Telephant
What is this some sort of revelation? People are always going to abuse the system no matter what is. Not to mention if Double Barrel holds an opinion you can expect it to be wrong. :lol:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:15 pm
by madryan
Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:21 pm
by GuitarBilly
Nothing new. I've been approached several times at the grocery store by people offering to pay $200 of my groceries with their food stamps for $150 of my cash. Happens often around here. Sucks really.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:23 pm
by DoubleBarrel
Telephant wrote:What is this some sort of revelation? People are always going to abuse the system no matter what is. Not to mention if Double Barrel holds an opinion you can expect it to be wrong. :lol:


I'm not wrong, you are just uniformed :lol:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:24 pm
by DoubleBarrel
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.




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Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:24 pm
by madryan
This is a perfect example why a good intro stats class is about the most useful class one can take in life.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:28 pm
by madryan
DoubleBarrel wrote:
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.




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Cause in "binary solutions land" where all the retards live if one disagrees with you and your "conservative" talking points one absolutely must be a communist.

Riiiiight.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:28 pm
by Yarbicus
madryan wrote:This is a perfect example why a good intro stats class is about the most useful class one can take in life.

"Statistics" and "facts" mean very little to modern so-called conservative. Too bad because I used to be a con myself. They have shifted so far to the right and so far away from reality that I am now considered a moderate liberal. :lol:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:35 pm
by DoubleBarrel
madryan wrote:
DoubleBarrel wrote:
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.




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Cause in "binary solutions land" where all the retards live if one disagrees with you and your "conservative" talking points one absolutely must be a communist.

Riiiiight.


Typical SadRyan.................oh Otto, you assume facts not in evidence.

You assume sooo many things about conservatives (and me) that just aren't true



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Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:49 pm
by Yarbicus
For anyone able to read above a 5th grade level, this is a great report on SNAP (the real name for "food stamps"):

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3239

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:57 pm
by rear naked
Fraud committed by poor people is way more enraging than fraud committed by rich people

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:02 pm
by Yarbicus
rear naked wrote:Fraud committed by poor people is way more enraging than fraud committed by rich people

Well, they do tend to end up in jail for it far more often...

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:04 pm
by Telephant
rear naked wrote:Fraud committed by poor people is way more enraging than fraud committed by rich people

:idea:

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:11 pm
by nightflameauto
rear naked wrote:Fraud committed by poor people is way more enraging than fraud committed by rich people


Rich people can afford to cover it up. That makes it OK.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:15 pm
by rear naked
nightflameauto wrote:
rear naked wrote:Fraud committed by poor people is way more enraging than fraud committed by rich people


Rich people can afford to cover it up. That makes it OK.


Well...for me, it has more to do with how welfare recipients are mostly minorities.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:16 pm
by DoubleBarrel
Yarbicus wrote:For anyone able to read above a 5th grade level, this is a great report on SNAP (the real name for "food stamps"):

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3239



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Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:20 pm
by Krunchmeister
madryan wrote:
DoubleBarrel wrote:
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.




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Cause in "binary solutions land" where all the retards live if one disagrees with you and your "conservative" talking points one absolutely must be a communist.

Riiiiight.


Communism didnt kill anyone-its an idea. A concept that mankind works together and shares the rewards relatively equally among its people is not KILLING anyone. Greedy power-mad tyrants kill people and they are'nt just doing it hiding behind a single social system.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:25 pm
by DoubleBarrel
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.


how long will you continue to be wrong :facepalm:

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http://www.justice.gov/usao/md/news/2013/NINERETAILERSARRESTEDFORFOODSTAMPFRAUD.html

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Officials said smaller retailers often fraudulently obtain PIN or card numbers from program beneficiaries and keep the funds without the person’s knowledge. In the last decade, USDA has disqualified more than 8,300 retailers for such fraud.


8,300 retailers :eek:

http://wastefraudandabuse.org/food-stamp-fraud/

Arizona authorities have broken up a massive food stamp fraud ring in Phoenix and seized almost $700,000 in cash. K&S convenience store workers Kameel Sweiss, Ameer Sweiss, and Faday Sweiss were arrested on Wednesday on charges of suspicion of illegally conducting an enterprise, fraudulent schemes and artifices, money laundering, unlawful use of food stamps, and computer tampering. "People were essentially selling their cards to [the] store," said spokesperson Stephanie Grisham.

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:30 pm
by DoubleBarrel
Krunchmeister wrote:
madryan wrote:
DoubleBarrel wrote:
madryan wrote:Please explain where this piece of "journalism" lists anything but anecdotal accounts with little or no verification. Also, what are the percentages of fraud?

I mean anyone can say anything on the Internet. And fox often does.




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Cause in "binary solutions land" where all the retards live if one disagrees with you and your "conservative" talking points one absolutely must be a communist.

Riiiiight.


Communism didnt kill anyone-its an idea. A concept that mankind works together and shares the rewards relatively equally among its people is not KILLING anyone. Greedy power-mad tyrants kill people and they are'nt just doing it hiding behind a single social system.


Wrong Pinko.

Name me a communist state where they live up to the "concept that mankind works together and shares the rewards relatively equally among its people"

There are none. :idea:

Because they all turn into brutal dictatorships

Re: There is no welfare fraud!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:41 pm
by rear naked
The percentage of food stamp payments that are trafficked has been about 1% for the last decade.