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Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:16 am
by GuitarBilly
This is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for Floyd locking nuts and claims to offer the same stability. Which is a tall order, but Graph Tech is known for making good stuff. What do you guys think?


https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... 1701823503


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Price is $30. I think I will give one a shot.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:18 am
by MacaroniSalad
I'm glad that someone is doing something like this in case I want to use some of my floyd rigged necks on a non-floyd body. But I wouldn't take a floyd nut off to use this and keep the bridge the same. I like the wheel just fine...

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:21 am
by Devin
MacaroniSalad wrote:I'm glad that someone is doing something like this in case I want to use some of my floyd rigged necks on a non-floyd body. But I wouldn't take a floyd nut off to use this and keep the bridge the same. I like the wheel just fine...



this tbh

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:29 am
by NinjaRaf
Interesting. Curious to see results.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:46 am
by ibenhad
Why is it installed on what I assume to be a Les Paul neck? I would not cut away material to install and it looks a lot longer than a standard LP nut.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:53 am
by EndTime
I’m trying to understand how this truly works. I got the gist of it but I’m failing to see how this will be superior? Or even as good as a locking nut.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:01 pm
by GuitarBilly
ibenhad wrote:Why is it installed on what I assume to be a Les Paul neck? I would not cut away material to install and it looks a lot longer than a standard LP nut.

Probably a Les Paul Axcess with the Floyd :idk:

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:54 pm
by ajaxlepinski
Unless I'm missing something, it looks like this nut allows the stings to freely slide back and forth? Which I might like on all my hard tail guitars.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:21 pm
by thermionic geek
I have zero need for this but it's interesting for sure. I will wait for some reviews. By looks alone have doubts this will keep the strings in the slots on a good dive bomb.

:snax:

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:18 pm
by somata
I saw this yesterday and don’t understand either…it says it’s to be paired with locking tuners, so maybe the free movement of the nut reduces binding and the locking happens at the tuners? Could be cool but I think they need to explain it better for dum dums like me…

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:48 pm
by nightflameauto
I don't see how adding more friction at the nut is going to be better than a locking nut or a well-filed standard nut with a straight pull to locking tuners. I'm far from a traditionalist, but something about that layout screams physics fail to me.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:17 pm
by fretless
I can’t find it on their website.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:06 pm
by Mike Oxhuge
nightflameauto wrote:I don't see how adding more friction at the nut is going to be better than a locking nut or a well-filed standard nut with a straight pull to locking tuners. I'm far from a traditionalist, but something about that layout screams physics fail to me.

It is less tension. The force is spread out over a much greater area = less tension, plus a slippery material to match.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:26 am
by Heath
I know a guy that decided to go away from a locking nut to just locking tuners a few years back. Had a custom bone nut cut. The only issue he had was that when you really slammed the bar to full dive bombing antics, the strings could unseat themselves from the nut. He eventually had a second nut cut that was taller than the first and had deeper grooves to help keep them returning to the correct place.

I think the design of this nut with the conical/funnel shape is probably to account for the same issue and bind less with the angle to the tuners as well.

I think it's a killer idea. If I had Floyd loaded guitars I would have already ordered. I despise the extra hassle of the Floyd at string changes, tuning, setup time. For my needs, a modern trem like the gotoh 510 and locking tuners has done a decent job of staying in tune. I don't dive them to full slack or flutter or anything too extreme though.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:39 am
by GuitarBilly
Yeah it's not available yet but I'll definitely try one when it's out.

I'm usually skeptical about this kind of thing, but everything I've bought from Grapth Tech has been great. They're not a snake oil company. So I'm sure this was well thought out and tested. And if I send up not liking it's only $30.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:10 am
by primeholy
I’d like to put this on my Schecter. Would be cool to not have to lock the strings at the nut. I have run out of fine tuning before because of the locking nut

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:49 am
by GuitarBilly
primeholy wrote:I’d like to put this on my Schecter. Would be cool to not have to lock the strings at the nut. I have run out of fine tuning before because of the locking nut


Yeah, same. I'll give it a try when it's available.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:53 pm
by wlshephard
Interesting

Looks kind of like the old Wilkerson roller nuts. Shape wise.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:27 pm
by BroSlinger
I just bought one for my warmoth soloist. I’ll report back.

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:35 pm
by linthat22
BroSlinger wrote:I just bought one for my warmoth soloist. I’ll report back.


Oh man, I cannot wait!

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:42 pm
by GuitarBilly
BroSlinger wrote:I just bought one for my warmoth soloist. I’ll report back.

Where did you find it for sale?

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:58 pm
by MacaroniSalad

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:28 pm
by GuitarBilly
MacaroniSalad wrote:https://graphtech.com/products/unlocking-slotted-nut-r3-r4-6-string-electric-guitar-model-6518?variant=39480833507351&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiA-vOsBhAAEiwAIWR0TbEpZ5UTZqckBMuIqx-0DcWweNBccKjfkVWbEUzZo5KJ1P6kXUc4IhoC0PYQAvD_BwE

well duh :loon: I swear I looked at tit 2 days ago and it said it was unavailable...

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:42 pm
by VTM
GuitarBilly wrote:well duh :loon: I swear I looked at tit 2 days ago and it said it was unavailable...


:lol:

Re: Graph Tech Un-Lock nut

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:44 pm
by GuitarBilly
hahahahaha I always have Tits on my mind.

I won't even fix it.