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I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:36 pm
by mortatone
Two totally different genres and styles but I'm comfortable saying that Cornell reached somewhere near the emotive depth as Ray but just in a different way. Few singers channel that much mass but they both did in spades.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:51 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Well I’m not comfortable with you saying that. :nope:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:12 am
by itchyfingers
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Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:23 am
by Ry Manchu
I concur. I think Chris is one of the all-time greats. We've as yet to see if any great singers have sprouted in the last 10 years, but my money is on Craig Finn from the Hold Steady, Jay Buchanan of Rival Sons and maybe Tim McIlrath from Rise Against. I wish Darroh Sudderth from Fair to Midland would make some more music, it's been 8 years. How's he paying rent?

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:33 am
by JiveTurkey
Is it wrong to not like Ray Charles' singing? Asking for myself.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:45 am
by Devin
I honestly had no idea Ray Charles was renowned for his lyrical depth

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:46 am
by Devin
Ry Manchu wrote:I wish Darroh Sudderth from Fair to Midland would make some more music, it's been 8 years. How's he paying rent?



+1

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:50 am
by Loop Bizkit
Devin wrote:
Ry Manchu wrote:I wish Darroh Sudderth from Fair to Midland would make some more music, it's been 8 years. How's he paying rent?



+1



From 2019....well, maybe? No idea when this song was made but I hadn't heard it, and I'm a huge Fair to Midland fan:


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfDUQQ2PJY[/youtube]

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:34 am
by BleedingWhiskey
While I love his Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, and solo work, I always felt meh about his Audioslave work. At least until I had a friend, who's a big fan of Audioslave, explain some of his lyrics in that band recently and damn, his lyrics had alot of depth and inner turmoil to it that I never realized. Probably even more so than some of his Soundgarden work. Chris Cornell was just in a class of his own.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:55 am
by ajaxlepinski
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Ray Charles had a very unique vocal sound that is instantly recognizable.
Chris Cornell, while an excellent and talented singer, not so much.

If they both sang the Star Spangled Banner, you'd know it was Ray.
You gotta have that to be an iconic vocalist.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:37 pm
by Ry Manchu
ajaxlepinski wrote:[img]If they both sang the Star Spangled Banner, you'd know it was Ray.
You gotta have that to be an iconic vocalist.


I'd know it was Chris half-way through "Oh." Ymmv. I've been a fan since my roommate played me Louder Than Live in 1991.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:32 pm
by Devin
Ry Manchu wrote:I'd know it was Chris half-way through "Oh." Ymmv.



+1 again

Cornell is easily one of the most instantly recognizable voices in rock :love:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:34 pm
by mortatone
Some people feel meh about Ray and some meh on Chris. All good. But to me Chris’s voice is instantly recognizable, not unlike Ray but obviously very different from one another. That’s part of why the comparison was drawn.

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:11 pm
by ajaxlepinski
Devin wrote:
Ry Manchu wrote:I'd know it was Chris half-way through "Oh." Ymmv.



+1 again

Cornell is easily one of the most instantly recognizable voices in rock :love:


I just remember him sounding like a bunch of other guys. To be honest, it's been a while since I listened to anything he did.
Saw Soundgarden in the 90's... going to have to break out some of my old CDs for my car ride to work next week and check out some of his new stuff. :thu:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:42 pm
by JiveTurkey
Loop wrote:
Devin wrote:
Ry Manchu wrote:I wish Darroh Sudderth from Fair to Midland would make some more music, it's been 8 years. How's he paying rent?



+1



From 2019....well, maybe? No idea when this song was made but I hadn't heard it, and I'm a huge Fair to Midland fan:


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfDUQQ2PJY[/youtube]

Does he have any non-jugband material? :cop: :lol:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:30 pm
by crankyrayhanky
Kind of feels like likening King Diamond to Cab Calloway. Great stage presence!

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:03 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Devin wrote:I honestly had no idea Ray Charles was renowned for his lyrical depth


"Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digga... but she ain't messin' with no broke n*&%a"

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:25 pm
by JiveTurkey
crankyrayhanky wrote:Kind of feels like likening King Diamond to Cab Calloway. Great stage presence!

:lol: but also this x1000.

Ostinato Rubato wrote:
Devin wrote:I honestly had no idea Ray Charles was renowned for his lyrical depth


"Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digga... but she ain't messin' with no broke n*&%a"

Excellent song. Too bad he went on to...other things :freak:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:03 pm
by mortatone
Maybe I'm crazy but imagine Chris singing this with Ray, playing off of each other with a rock guitar part peeking in from time to time.


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtUQImH26Bw[/youtube]

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 pm
by GuitarBilly
I agree but I think Ray Charles would've seen the situation differently :lol:

Re: I'mma say that Chris Cornell was on par with Ray Charles

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:08 pm
by Devin
GuitarBilly wrote:I agree but I think Ray Charles would've seen the situation differently :lol:



....he wouldn't see it at all :badumptiss:


:cop: