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Yarbicus wrote:I haven't seen much race blaming in Seattle. It is more about "all homeless people are crazy and criminals." Definitely more about class than race here.......

clipless bumper wrote:

Yarbicus wrote:I haven't seen much race blaming in Seattle. It is more about "all homeless people are crazy and criminals." Definitely more about class than race here.......

You seem quite sheltered - or maybe you are reading a limited subset of media.

Yarbicus wrote:........I guess that is what makes us so "liberal." We don't care what color you are, we just hate the poor........

GuitarBilly wrote:Guys, we all know the stance on political threads here, so let's keep this civilized or it will get locked.


I have no idea what the situation in Seattle really is. I'm sure there are issues. But I'm also sure there's exaggeration/propaganda on both sides of the argument.

One city I'm familiar with is Baltimore, which I visited about 10 times the past few months and yeah some parts of that city are really ghetto/rundown. But there are a lot of safe and nice neighborhoods too. The way they talk about it in some media reports make sound like it's the wild west there and it's just not true.
I'd have no issues living in some of the neighborhoods I visited/played at. Obviously, there are areas that must be avoided. But that's not that different from most large cities. You can't judge L.A. by visiting the skid row or Panorama City, for example.
I've made quite a few friends in Baltimore now and while they all acknowledge there are issues, none of them feel like the apocalypse is upon them and disagree with the way the city is being portrayed by some.

So who knows. I'd much rather talk to a local or see it for myself than base my conclusion on a video or media outlet, which is very likely to have an agenda.

Ostinato Rubato wrote:This is what happens when you implement “compassionate” policies that sound good from an upper-middle class perch, as you peer down at the masses thinking you can be their benevolent Jesus. Billboard dreams.

Human nature will set up shop right on top of systemic weak spots and hang it’s dick out.

GuitarBilly wrote:Guys, we all know the stance on political threads here, so let's keep this civilized or it will get locked.


I have no idea what the situation in Seattle really is. I'm sure there are issues. But I'm also sure there's exaggeration/propaganda on both sides of the argument.

One city I'm familiar with is Baltimore, which I visited about 10 times the past few months and yeah some parts of that city are really ghetto/rundown. But there are a lot of safe and nice neighborhoods too. The way they talk about it in some media reports make sound like it's the wild west there and it's just not true.
I'd have no issues living in some of the neighborhoods I visited/played at. Obviously, there are areas that must be avoided. But that's not that different from most large cities. You can't judge L.A. by visiting the skid row or Panorama City, for example.
I've made quite a few friends in Baltimore now and while they all acknowledge there are issues, none of them feel like the apocalypse is upon them and disagree with the way the city is being portrayed by some.

So who knows. I'd much rather talk to a local or see it for myself than base my conclusion on a video or media outlet, which is very likely to have an agenda.

fretless wrote:I'm from B-more , born and raised . I call L.A. home now but I still love that place . However crime has always been a problem there and D.C. I'm no stranger to it . My father also born and raised there in the 50's was shot 5 times when he was 19 working at a gas station when he returned home from Nam was recon there, never shot once , shot at though yes . 2 of the bullets stayed in him until the day he died . On another sad note but crime related ... My mother was murdered when I was 12 . Home invasion in Bel Air Md. unsolved to this day . happened in 1981 . R.I.P. folks and good luck B-more .

newholland wrote:

Ostinato Rubato wrote:This is what happens when you implement “compassionate” policies that sound good from an upper-middle class perch, as you peer down at the masses thinking you can be their benevolent Jesus. Billboard dreams.

Human nature will set up shop right on top of systemic weak spots and hang it’s dick out.

just a query then: what's the alternative? class eradication? shift the problem elsewhere? ignore it?

i get it. and have seen portland and seattle that basically don't enforce homeless regs. but fixing the economic system that makes rents exorbitant and wages low is a significant challenge too..

not tryna start a scrap at all-- but tbh, we can discuss it, but the fixes aren't guitar forum strata serious systemic clusterfuck!

Ry Manchu wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:Guys, we all know the stance on political threads here, so let's keep this civilized or it will get locked.


I have no idea what the situation in Seattle really is. I'm sure there are issues. But I'm also sure there's exaggeration/propaganda on both sides of the argument.

One city I'm familiar with is Baltimore, which I visited about 10 times the past few months and yeah some parts of that city are really ghetto/rundown. But there are a lot of safe and nice neighborhoods too. The way they talk about it in some media reports make sound like it's the wild west there and it's just not true.
I'd have no issues living in some of the neighborhoods I visited/played at. Obviously, there are areas that must be avoided. But that's not that different from most large cities. You can't judge L.A. by visiting the skid row or Panorama City, for example.
I've made quite a few friends in Baltimore now and while they all acknowledge there are issues, none of them feel like the apocalypse is upon them and disagree with the way the city is being portrayed by some.

So who knows. I'd much rather talk to a local or see it for myself than base my conclusion on a video or media outlet, which is very likely to have an agenda.

I don't know too much about Seattle, so I don't have to much to add to this thread. However, I do know a little about Baltimore. The State of Maryland is having to make hard cuts to the budget right now. But it has a decently growing economy and job market. It has a pretty good school system. The port has really been doing a lot of volume lately. There are parts of the city that look like war zones. There are also lots of very nice areas. The unemployment rate is higher than most of the country. The poverty rate is high. There are way too many homicides. The thirtieth largest city should not be fifth in crime. It cannot be fixed in a year or two. But I do think it can be fixed. It starts with banks willing to invest in people that want to fix the run down areas instead of making the suburbs extend farther from the city center. You can do both, but you can't do only the latter.