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So I never had a need for a high pass low pass filter before. My Suhr RL never really had very much bottom end but the Waza TAE definitely packs a punch. Still trying getting my bearings on a set and forget recording setting. I'm thinking I may need to start cutting with a filter though. What are you guys using?

Also just saw Waves is 50% everything right now for those interested.

FAKA! wrote:So I never had a need for a high pass low pass filter before. My Suhr RL never really had very much bottom end but the Waza TAE definitely packs a punch. Still trying getting my bearings on a set and forget recording setting. I'm thinking I may need to start cutting with a filter though. What are you guys using?

I've always used the Focusrite Red Eq plugin. There may be something better out there, but I haven't bothered to try anything else.

Dick Butter Nuts wrote:

FAKA! wrote:So I never had a need for a high pass low pass filter before. My Suhr RL never really had very much bottom end but the Waza TAE definitely packs a punch. Still trying getting my bearings on a set and forget recording setting. I'm thinking I may need to start cutting with a filter though. What are you guys using?

I've always used the Focusrite Red Eq plugin. There may be something better out there, but I haven't bothered to try anything else.

Thanks I'll check em out. I wonder if I could use the NAD IR high low pass filters and just not load a IR?

FAKA! wrote:

Dick Butter Nuts wrote:

FAKA! wrote:So I never had a need for a high pass low pass filter before. My Suhr RL never really had very much bottom end but the Waza TAE definitely packs a punch. Still trying getting my bearings on a set and forget recording setting. I'm thinking I may need to start cutting with a filter though. What are you guys using?

I've always used the Focusrite Red Eq plugin. There may be something better out there, but I haven't bothered to try anything else.

Thanks I'll check em out. I wonder if I could use the NAD IR high low pass filters and just not load a IR?

Not sure, never tried that. When I upgraded to Ableton Live 10 I did some house cleaning and dumped my IR loading plugins as I haven't used them since getting the AMT Pangaea.

TBH I don't even use the Focusrite Red eq all that much, as the Pangaea has hi and lo pass, compression, reverb, etc. I might start using Red eq more often now that I'm recording the audio for my dungeon cam vids to Ableton and muting the audio on the dungeon clam.

I’ve found a home with the Waves G channel. EQ and comp in one. The high and low pass filters I believe are -6db per octave so it’s that softer kind of filter that I find works better. Plus there is a simple setting for the compressor that is basically an instant heavy guitar tightener. Even if your guitar is nice and tight, this little compressor setting and the appropriate hi and low pass setting just makes it better. Pretty much always in my experience. The G channel has easily become one of my favorite plug ins, since it’s great on just about every source and it’s powerful even with subtle settings, but also excels at sounding good with extreme settings

EndTime wrote:I’ve found a home with the Waves G channel. EQ and comp in one. The high and low pass filters I believe are -6db per octave so it’s that softer kind of filter that I find works better. Plus there is a simple setting for the compressor that is basically an instant heavy guitar tightener. Even if your guitar is nice and tight, this little compressor setting and the appropriate hi and low pass setting just makes it better. Pretty much always in my experience. The G channel has easily become one of my favorite plug ins, since it’s great on just about every source and it’s powerful even with subtle settings, but also excels at sounding good with extreme settings

Thanks dude! I just picked that up on sale for $29 bucks. Hope to mess with it this weekend.

Quick setting for it. Hi pass at whatever. But start at 80hz. Maybe don’t even need it depending. The lo-pass is kinda key cause once you kick in the comp setting I’m gonna suggest, the track will be brighter and more aggressive. Maybe that’s what you want. But if your track is already bright enough you will have to roll down the lo-pass to get back to where you were. Again these are soft filters so even rolling all the way down to 3.5khz won’t kill the high end.. and at times I’ll do that!! But usually between 5-7khz is where I’ll end up

Anyway, the trick I learned is with the comp.
Roll the threshold ALL the WAY to right. I think it’s -20. But whatever it is just all the way.

Then for ratio just a touch. I usually go between 1.3-1.5 ratio. Click the fast attack switch. You should be seeing about 3 dB reduction on the metering. It may stay on 3 dB or you’ll juat see it start lighting up at times. A/B this sound with the raw sound by turning it on/off and dial in the lo-pass filter to get the high end about the same. The difference is once you compensate then hi end with the lo-pass you’ll still have plenty of brightness and cut, but all(or any) of the fizz will be totally gone. And that comp setting just tightens up the guitar track in a pleasing way

EndTime wrote:I’ve found a home with the Waves G channel. EQ and comp in one. The high and low pass filters I believe are -6db per octave so it’s that softer kind of filter that I find works better. Plus there is a simple setting for the compressor that is basically an instant heavy guitar tightener. Even if your guitar is nice and tight, this little compressor setting and the appropriate hi and low pass setting just makes it better. Pretty much always in my experience. The G channel has easily become one of my favorite plug ins, since it’s great on just about every source and it’s powerful even with subtle settings, but also excels at sounding good with extreme settings

Same. I use it on all channels, subs and master bus. Closest I've found to recording with an actual mixer.

I bought the Lindell Audio "Twelve Tubes" EQ a while back but literally haven't even tried it yet

GuitarBilly wrote:

EndTime wrote:I’ve found a home with the Waves G channel. EQ and comp in one. The high and low pass filters I believe are -6db per octave so it’s that softer kind of filter that I find works better. Plus there is a simple setting for the compressor that is basically an instant heavy guitar tightener. Even if your guitar is nice and tight, this little compressor setting and the appropriate hi and low pass setting just makes it better. Pretty much always in my experience. The G channel has easily become one of my favorite plug ins, since it’s great on just about every source and it’s powerful even with subtle settings, but also excels at sounding good with extreme settings

Same. I use it on all channels, subs and master bus. Closest I've found to recording with an actual mixer.

Master buss too?!? I do run it on a fair amount of my channels. Definitely all guitars and bass. It just works great on those. Haven’t fully dialed em in on drums. But to be fair I only have done one session with live drums and by the time I started using this I had my drums dialed in pretty good.

I’ve used other channel strip plugs before, but the Gchannel seems to have everything work together, if you know what I mean. Rather than feeling like it has 3 different plugins incorporated into one, all the sections seem to work with each other and respond more intuitively. Or sumthin... just know I like how it works and the ease it is to get the track to find a place in the mix

If I had never heard your clips I would assume that you just have bad ears and didn't know you needed HP/LP filters before. Though, I bet that if you had them and had used them where applicable that your good clips might even have a little better separation.

IMO HP/LP filters are important even if you don't think you're hearing very much difference on the track they're applied to. Where they have the most impact is in hearing the other instruments in the mix that are occupying the freq. range that you shaved off on the filtered tracks.

Pretty essential, but it's such a basic function that any stock DAW HP/LP will do the job just fine.

EndTime wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:

EndTime wrote:I’ve found a home with the Waves G channel. EQ and comp in one. The high and low pass filters I believe are -6db per octave so it’s that softer kind of filter that I find works better. Plus there is a simple setting for the compressor that is basically an instant heavy guitar tightener. Even if your guitar is nice and tight, this little compressor setting and the appropriate hi and low pass setting just makes it better. Pretty much always in my experience. The G channel has easily become one of my favorite plug ins, since it’s great on just about every source and it’s powerful even with subtle settings, but also excels at sounding good with extreme settings

Same. I use it on all channels, subs and master bus. Closest I've found to recording with an actual mixer.

Master buss too?!? I do run it on a fair amount of my channels. Definitely all guitars and bass. It just works great on those. Haven’t fully dialed em in on drums. But to be fair I only have done one session with live drums and by the time I started using this I had my drums dialed in pretty good.

I’ve used other channel strip plugs before, but the Gchannel seems to have everything work together, if you know what I mean. Rather than feeling like it has 3 different plugins incorporated into one, all the sections seem to work with each other and respond more intuitively. Or sumthin... just know I like how it works and the ease it is to get the track to find a place in the mix

I learned from a couple producer's tutorials that HP on the master bus of everything below 40hz can really help to control the low end in the playback on a wide range of sound systems. I think it applies more to the boots-n-cats-n-boots-n-cats music but should in principle be true with all bass heavy music or boomy bass and drums.