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Sell me on why metallica is a better all time band than megadeth. I don't see it at all. Megadeth > Metallica all time, all day erry day imo.

Mave's voice is absolutely terrible.
Honestly the fact that they're still a good band despite his voice is a testament to how good at guitar they are.

Dave has kind of resorted to talk singing at this point. It works with the new material quite well. Curious to see how they follow up Dystopia as I dug that album a lot.

Albert Ross'd

G-SPACE wrote:Albert Ross'd

Mamberg Jr'd?

Or Mamberg II'd?

You're right

However, same difference, no?

G-SPACE wrote:You're right

However, same difference, no?

They're all Wayne from all the reports I've been reading

Which makes it Dave

Or maybe Wave?

You guys are crazy imo, his vox were great on dystopia.

Mave'd

For whatver reason, I haven't been able to jive with Megadeth for a few years now. Loved 'em up through the 90s, though. Definitely says something that Dave Mustaine has been a key player in two of the most influential metal/thrash bands ever.

Megadeth has a few really great albums. Metallica is both the best and the worst metal band of all time.

Rust In Piece&Countdown To Extinction>>>>>>>> Everything Metallica has ever done.

Post 2000, james should have ditched lars and Kirk and went on to make some amazing music as long as he wasn't the main vocalist. The biggest problem is that Bob rock lied to him.and told him he could sing. Hets vox were amazing until the early 90s then he became a yodeler. Kirk is just absolute shit. Can't solo can't contribute to the writing process. They got lazy and he relishes the role of permanent hired gun. He must be so easy to work with as they keep him around to do absolutely nothing. I get it, but they never grew as a band from their highest point because they became those guys holding armani shopping bags.
Dave on the other hand has always written hungry. Aside from a few stinkers here and there, all.of his music sounds spirited and hungry. He doesn't seem content. Perhaps its the perpetual chip on his shoulder from always being #2. I hear passion and have an emotional connection with his music to this day. Metallica is just writing low hanging fruit. Lars can only do so much and kirk is just awful. Robert is counting his brinks truck full of cash but he can't possibly enjoy playing st anger forward.

TurboPablo wrote:Rust In Piece&Countdown To Extinction>>>>>>>> Everything Metallica has ever done.

You should really give Peace Sells a listen if you haven't. I think you'd dig the jazziness mixed in with the chaos.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHBDOfwYOgU[/video]

Yarbicus wrote:Megadeth has a few really great albums. Metallica is both the best and the worst metal band of all time.

Very well put.

G-SPACE wrote:For whatver reason, I haven't been able to jive with Megadeth for a few years now. Loved 'em up through the 90s, though. Definitely says something that Dave Mustaine has been a key player in two of the most influential metal/thrash bands ever.

Dystopia is awesome. I think the System Has Failed was flawed but great as well as far as being a good "accessible" Megadeth record. That also happening to include Chris Poland and Vinnie Coliuta (sp) who is a friggin' beast that should do metal more often.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxsnOm2kLg[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eeKm5zzJ5o[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuGbuEv_3AU[/video]

JiveTurkey wrote:

TurboPablo wrote:Rust In Piece&Countdown To Extinction>>>>>>>> Everything Metallica has ever done.

You should really give Peace Sells a listen if you haven't. I think you'd dig the jazziness mixed in with the chaos.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHBDOfwYOgU[/video]

Yarbicus wrote:Megadeth has a few really great albums. Metallica is both the best and the worst metal band of all time.

Very well put.

G-SPACE wrote:For whatver reason, I haven't been able to jive with Megadeth for a few years now. Loved 'em up through the 90s, though. Definitely says something that Dave Mustaine has been a key player in two of the most influential metal/thrash bands ever.

Dystopia is awesome. I think the System Has Failed was flawed but great as well as far as being a good "accessible" Megadeth record. That also happening to include Chris Poland and Vinnie Coliuta (sp) who is a friggin' beast that should do metal more often.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxsnOm2kLg[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eeKm5zzJ5o[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuGbuEv_3AU[/video]

I love Peace Sells.... But, I don't think it's quite as polished as the other two I mentioned. Something about the whole Mave/Marty Friedman thing that is just mind bending. At that point in time they were a perfect compliment to each other. Not to dogg on Chris Poland at all. Dude is a monster player.

No I get you Paul. There is an interplay between Mustaine and Friedman that is just insane. I prefer the Poland/Mustaine combo because it doesn't have that polish yet it still deadly precise in spite of that fact. In all honesty; I've rightfully crapped my pants to both

I honestly cannot decide if Chris Poland is overrated or underrated.

jnurp wrote:I honestly cannot decide if Chris Poland is overrated or underrated.

He's an absolute ripper of a guitarist. He gets a raw deal, imo; in that he was followed up by Friedman. No one is coming out of that comparison unscathed.

I know Poland is a great player but he is heralded as a hero by early megadeth fans as being this jazz metal genius and actually give him the credit for the peace sells sound rather than mave. Then you have the other side that compares his brief catalog with martys and he gets blown off the charts and considered Jeff young esque if you will. Just a fill.in guy till Marty arrived. Interesting debate in and of itself.

jnurp wrote:I know Poland is a great player but he is heralded as a hero by early megadeth fans as being this jazz metal genius and actually give him the credit for the peace sells sound rather than mave. Then you have the other side that compares his brief catalog with martys and he gets blown off the charts and considered Jeff young esque if you will. Just a fill.in guy till Marty arrived. Interesting debate in and of itself.

Those people are dumb.

My order for Megadeth albums:

1. Peace Sells...
2. Rust
3. Dystopia
4. Everything else

Great albums but none of them have the genre defining power of Ride the Lightning (the album that defined thrash), Master of Puppets (album that perfected thrash), And Justice for All (album that took thrash to its logical conclusion).

JiveTurkey wrote:

jnurp wrote:I honestly cannot decide if Chris Poland is overrated or underrated.

He's an absolute ripper of a guitarist. He gets a raw deal, imo; in that he was followed up by Friedman. No one is coming out of that comparison unscathed.

He had a buffer zone of Jeff Young, though. It's more that he vanished off the face of the earth for a while, peeked his head up for one solo album, disappeared again, then went jazz.

He's great at everything he does, though. Chris (and Gar) do deserve a good chunk of credit for the Peace Sells sound. There is a pretty decent difference between KIMB and Peace Sells, and only a year between the two, and most of KIMB was written before Chris or Gar were involved.

Metallica have always been slightly more mainstream friendly. As early as Ride the Lightning they were playing soft ballads....

Megadeth was always more technical, which is why I prefer them over Metallica. Better riffs, better melodies, better solos, but because they're more technical it's tougher for people to get into. And Dave's terrible voice (even worse live), as mentioned, doesn't help either.

I like both Metallica and Megadeth about equally, but Kill em All is my favorite record between both bands. And if that's because Mave wrote much of that record, then it makes sense.
Much prefer Poland to Friedman, too. TBH I'd rather listen to Mave's leads then Friedman's. I do realize that Marty is an amazing player, but his style wears me out.