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Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:39 pm
by AtypicalOne
Good Evening - I have a Fender Super 60 which I purchased from a private sale. It works and sounds great except the bass adjustment knob spins without restriction in both directions and I note no change in sound when doing so. I can only presume the entire Pot requires replacement. With this in mind, I contacted both a Amp parts store as well as Fender directly. Here is a summary response from both,
"The pot you are looking for is Fender part number 002 8576 000 and unfortunately Fender has discontinued carrying that part many years ago and they are very tough to find. It's a 250K with a special 20% 10% log taper."
I'm still kinda a beginner at guitar, let alone anything to do with the amp beyond simple adjustments. Can someone assist me in selecting the correct replacement? Then I'll try to find someone local to help me perform the surgery, so to speak.
Thank you and Good Night ~ Keith
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:44 pm
by EugeneTheJeep
Did you make sure the set screw on the knob is tight?
Some pots have push on knobs, others use a set screw.
Also, you can just get an audio (log) taper 250k pot, without the the special taper and it will work just fine.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:54 pm
by AtypicalOne
Thank you for the timely reply.
To answer your question and respond to your recommendation;
EugeneTheJeep wrote:Did you make sure the set screw on the knob is tight?
It is a push-on style knob. And, when I remove the knob, the remaining pin spins freely as previously described.
EugeneTheJeep wrote:Also, you can just get an audio (log) taper 250k pot, without the the special taper and it will work just fine.
OK, Great! - Sounds like the least resistant path at this point. However, as I denoted, I'm uncertain what this means. Remember, I'm still sorta new at this. Where would I go to find an "audio (log) taper 250k pot"
Thanks Again - Keith
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:00 pm
by Gunslinger
Any place that sells guitar/amp parts pretty much.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:15 am
by clipless bumper
yeah - you just want an audio taper, not a linear taper pot.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:45 am
by AtypicalOne
OK - Thanks again for the help. So, I can walk into a local guitar shop and say,
Hi, I'm looking for an "Audio (log) taper 250k pot"
And that should get me what I need?
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:02 pm
by clipless bumper
Yup - as long as they sell parts.
You could order it online from All-Parts or many other places also.
There are full-size pots (better) and mini pots (cheaper) too.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:35 pm
by AtypicalOne
mamberg wrote: You could order it online from All-Parts or many other places also.
There are full-size pots (better) and mini pots (cheaper) too.
Great - I think ordering on-line my be my better option. When I go into local guitar shops I think they recognize I'm sorta a beginner still and try to treat me like a girl in a fancy dress at an auto garage. LOL 
With regard to full-size versus mini pot, is there a significant affect on performance?
Thanks again - Keith
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:38 pm
by clipless bumper
Bigger is better in this case - smaller is cheaper.
Although you may want to match what is in there - if it is board (PCB) mounted pot - you will need that specific type and size to be have an easy switch.
If it is connected with flying leads (wires) - then you probably have a bit more leeway.
There are also 'feel' differences between brands of pots - Bourns are one of the best - nice smooth feel when turning them.
CTS is a good all-around easily found brand.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:01 pm
by AtypicalOne
Well now I'm confused. I'm guessing I should take the panel off to see specifically what I have? I thought the specs I was already provided would suffice?
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:50 pm
by clipless bumper
yeah - the more I answered/thought about it - the more variables there were.
PCB mounted pots are a different animal than a pot you would put in a hand-wired guitar or amp.
Take/post a picture of the inside of the amp - pot in question.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:54 pm
by AtypicalOne
OK - so I've been trying to get access to the POT so I can then post a pic for your help with identification. Sadly, I cannot figure out how to get access to behind the face-plate of the amp so I might remove the POT. What am I doing wrong?
It's likely obvious, but Ce'st la Vive. Please enlighten me.
Cheers, Keith
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:04 pm
by clipless bumper
Usually, you have to take the entire chassis (stamped metal enclosure that the pots/jacks are mounted to) out of the cabinet.
Normally held in be 4 bolts.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:37 pm
by AtypicalOne
OK. I'll press on.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:13 pm
by Gunslinger
AtypicalOne wrote:OK. I'll press on.
Do you have any experience with electronics? Cause the voltages held inside the amp can be lethal, even if unplugged.
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:04 am
by AtypicalOne
No, no I don't. Aborting mission. Now what?
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:50 pm
by AtypicalOne
Update - I decided to seek professional help. Knowing one's limits is important. One cannot push in all directions simultaneously. 
Thank you for your guidance.
Kind Regards, Keith
Re: Alternative Replacement POT
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:05 pm
by EugeneTheJeep
Good decision. It's tricky soldering on PCBs sometimes and too much heat can destroy the traces.