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Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:24 pm
by thefyn
Yarp. I'm getting a set. I have two friends who are utter gear maniacs. We are talking probably a million spent on gear between them over the years. And they said SED's are the best current production tube out there.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:32 pm
by Dewy
if only they weren't so goddamned expensive

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:54 pm
by m3at
A good player can make any amp sound good, LesPaul-Marshall. So maybe instead of wasting your money on expensive tubes, confederate flag bandanas and reebok pumps, you should consider lessons?

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by BlairToolsHD
this pdf better be fappable. it's taking me 40 seconds to download.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by Noizemaker
m3at wrote:A good player can make any amp sound good, LesPaul-Marshall. So maybe instead of wasting your money on expensive tubes, confederate flag bandanas and rebook pumps, you should consider lessons?


^^^lulz

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:04 pm
by Norton666
SED's don't sound any better to me than JJ's or any other tube that costs less than half the price to my ears. I put them in one of my Marshalls and immediately felt stupid for having spent double what I could've gotten JJs for. Just my opinion of course

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:07 pm
by BlairToolsHD
It depends on how your amp is biased too. I had 17 year old stock peavey 6L6's in my 5150 and was so excited to put in a quartet of new TAD 6l6's and literally heard little to no difference. I then replaced all of my preamp tubes and was able to tell a difference but not huge. If you're running a marshall or something really hot I'm going to assume power tube choice can change your tone to a bigger degree.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:38 pm
by Filter500
I've heard a difference between brands, and I think SEDs sound better than JJs. :idk:

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:43 pm
by MacaroniSalad
JJ is yet to fail me, so until that day comes, all the other tube companies can suck it :)

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:48 pm
by OverDriven
I used to buy SED =C= EL34s and 6L6s years ago because everyone on the forum hyped them up. Then one day I actually decided to use my own ears and compare them. They aren't that good. They aren't really even good at all IMO. JJ's kill them. SED tubes sound hard and brash in the midrange and never really give you that feel that you can dig in and they react. One of the most overhyped brands out there IMO.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:52 pm
by soundgardener75
m3at wrote:A good player can make any amp sound good, LesPaul-Marshall. So maybe instead of wasting your money on expensive tubes, confederate flag bandanas and rebook pumps, you should consider lessons?


Oh shi-

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:00 pm
by NeloAngelo
m3at wrote:A good player can make any amp sound good, LesPaul-Marshall. So maybe instead of wasting your money on expensive tubes, confederate flag bandanas and rebook pumps, you should consider lessons?

OOOOOH bitch, you got burned bitch.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:11 pm
by Hipster Salad
BlairToolsHD wrote:It depends on how your amp is biased too. I had 17 year old stock peavey 6L6's in my 5150 and was so excited to put in a quartet of new TAD 6l6's and literally heard little to no difference. I then replaced all of my preamp tubes and was able to tell a difference but not huge. If you're running a marshall or something really hot I'm going to assume power tube choice can change your tone to a bigger degree.


That's likely because the 5150s have a fixed, cold bias IIRC. I do think preamp tubes would make more of a difference in power amp tubes for that particular amp, though. I noticed the same when I had my 5150. Granted I wasn't using primo speakers but still didn't hear much of a difference when swapping power tubes from the 5150 and my XXX.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:47 pm
by magh8
m3at wrote:A good player can make any amp sound good, LesPaul-Marshall. So maybe instead of wasting your money on expensive tubes, confederate flag bandanas and rebook pumps, you should consider lessons?

oh no you didn't.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:42 pm
by Jp77
Norton666 wrote:SED's don't sound any better to me than JJ's or any other tube that costs less than half the price to my ears. I put them in one of my Marshalls and immediately felt stupid for having spent double what I could've gotten JJs for. Just my opinion of course

That's because you didn't send your tubes out to be modded :D its only $299 per quad and a 6 month wait!

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:38 pm
by primeholy
BlairToolsHD wrote:this pdf better be fappable. it's taking me 40 seconds to download.



Somebody needs a better isp.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:43 pm
by NeloAngelo
if i had any motivation, i would dig up dan's video and make a parody thread titled "this is why you should use a metronome."

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:44 pm
by Dave
Maybe in a studio setting under a microscope I could tell the difference.

Generally I don't find enough of a difference that can't be equalized with a slight eq adjustment and I buy something reliable. We play loud and in a band situation tubes that work are all that matter.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04 pm
by Jp77
I have to say that I don't care much for jj el34's in many of my amps but think that the eh el34's and even eh 6ca7 sound as good or better then sed Nd the eh cost a lot less.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:47 pm
by i386
I don't have a vast collection of tubes, but what little I do have I can swap out and can't tell any difference. So, I buy JJ's.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:35 am
by Solarburn
Fuck Winged C's.Their tone and durability can wow someone else.

EH 6CA7's or JJ34L's. Both these go in my Marshall's.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:38 am
by primeholy
I use only mesa tubes in my mark v. I have only had bad luck with other tubes. I had good luck experimenting with my mark iv, so I guess it can depend on the amp.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:48 am
by Zozobra
EL34s are for noobs

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:11 am
by sleewell
Fuses are the next tube discussion

Bast tain evar




Just play loud music with a band, that is the most fun.

Re: This is why you should use SED Winged =C='s ...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:33 am
by Dickarms
all i know is that the ruby EL34B-STRs fucking own JJs, and are on the cheap. I'm good.