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EASILY moar than you do.

Reading some threads here about settings (especially the mesas).........I can't believe how some of you dial in your amps!

Don't you get lost in the mix?

I like a really bright raw mid range focused tone.......I'm talking JTM45, jumpered channels, mids at 3pm, preamp pedal that boosts mids and upper mids.......then add dirt for even more mids.

I like my mids with mids.

I don't get lost in the mix and my mids are better than yours.

i cant imagine playing with some of you mid boosting clowns. im getting a headache just thinking about my mids at 3 oclock with some vintage 30s as well as boosting with more mids at actual band volume. i guess some people just like harsh one dimensional sounding awfulness. ive never been told anything but to turn down all my life and my mids hardly ever make it to noon. how many big name rig pics are posted around here where the mids are never above 11 oclock? id say 99% of them

I have great tone. (even though it's the anti-tone)

It allows me to use a lower wattage amps and still fit in.

With the other guitar player going for a fat thick fuzzy tone.........it's really a great compliment to his tone......

not to mention, my tone gives the bass player some room too.

its music. there is not one right way to do things. if we all set our amps the same it would be very boring. i agree about giving the bass player room though, a guitar is not a bass.

these settings sound really great for my sound: gain, bass, mids, treble, volume

how low is lower wattage?? id much rather use a big watt head and not have to compromise my tone at stage volume than use a under powered amp and have to do things like boost every mid i can find to be able to be heard.

my Plexis..

Presence - either all the way off, or @ 12:00

Bass-Dimed
Mids-2:00 to 3:00
treble- 3:00 to dimed (depending on the day. My amps react different to weather, temperatures, etc)

plus they're raeped w pedals, so there's moar mids added to the toan

IMO the mids craze over the past 10 years has ruined guitar music. What a bunch of bland safe tones I'm hearing. Almost all these bands sounds the same.

Esp live. I mean you used to cut through with volume and swagger. Now you have the mids on 8 and the vol on 1 and it's this sad honky vanilla paste.

Fuck mids. Give me razor swagger, darkness and punch you in the chest VOLUME.

RaceU4her wrote:how low is lower wattage?? id much rather use a big watt head and not have to compromise my tone at stage volume than use a under powered amp and have to do things like boost every mid i can find to be able to be heard.

Well, a JTM45 is 40w, I think?

I'm not compromising at all. It's my preferred tone.
The other guitar player uses a 100w amp. Not that 100w is all that much louder, really.

I also use really bright, high output speakers. Eminence Tonker and Wizard in an open back Vox 2x12.

This is for pretty heavy music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xP_KFgZBQw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeUuoxyt_E

I created an amp with only a mid knob. Turning it left doesn't lessen the mids, it only adds less mids than turning it right.

thefyn wrote:IMO the mids craze over the past 10 years has ruined guitar music. What a bunch of bland safe tones I'm hearing. Almost all these bands sounds the same.

Esp live. I mean you used to cut through with volume and swagger. Now you have the mids on 8 and the vol on 1 and it's this sad honky vanilla paste.

Fuck mids. Give me razor swagger, darkness and punch you in the chest VOLUME.

I got that too.

Too much mids = boxy AM radio tone


It's all about balance

I actually toyed around with adding a cocked wah/Q to my tone, via blending.

thefyn wrote:IMO the mids craze over the past 10 years has ruined guitar music. What a bunch of bland safe tones I'm hearing. Almost all these bands sounds the same.

Esp live. I mean you used to cut through with volume and swagger. Now you have the mids on 8 and the vol on 1 and it's this sad honky vanilla paste.

Fuck mids. Give me razor swagger, darkness and punch you in the chest VOLUME.

it really just got ridiculous at the old place 5 or 6 years ago, i mean you couldnt make a thread or ask a question without it turning into more mids discussion. if your dick wasnt getting hard anymore the reason was you have to turn up your mids. i can understand someone liking some mids in their tone, but when everything in their chain from guitar to speakers is aimed at boosting more mids i gotta wonder what that persons malfunction is

Just use whatever tone works for what you are doing. I've hear some god awful tones that actually sounded great in the song/band context.

To be fair, I'm using a Jazzmaster in the middle position most of the time.......I suppose that's sort of scooped.


I agree, about the awful good tone (QOTSA comes to mind). No matter what I do, my tone is pretty good. not bragging, but I can't help but have it sound good. lol

I use Marshally / SLO / Bogner based modules in a RM100. All of them are pretty much set up the same with the mids at 1:00 and everything basically at noon. Speakers are usually M75's and the boosts are generally transparent. Maybe a touch of mid hump but not TS type of hump.

The tone cuts through just fine.

It's all relative as to what pickups and speakers you use, and your amp's inherent voicing. Every amp I have owned has ALWAYS sounded scooped when running through a stock 1960B cab with G12T-75s, even with the midrange set at noon or higher.

gotta have that mid thwack!

Hugh Jaynus wrote:EASILY moar than you do.

Reading some threads here about settings (especially the mesas).........I can't believe how some of you dial in your amps!

Don't you get lost in the mix?

I like a really bright raw mid range focused tone.......I'm talking JTM45, jumpered channels, mids at 3pm, preamp pedal that boosts mids and upper mids.......then add dirt for even more mids.

I like my mids with mids.

What you talking about brosef? I just checked the recto thread and everyone but one joker who posted 10 0 10 in jest had thier mids over noon?

How many Mesas have you ever even played?

Tommy Eisen wrote:

Hugh Jaynus wrote:EASILY moar than you do.

Reading some threads here about settings (especially the mesas).........I can't believe how some of you dial in your amps!

Don't you get lost in the mix?

I like a really bright raw mid range focused tone.......I'm talking JTM45, jumpered channels, mids at 3pm, preamp pedal that boosts mids and upper mids.......then add dirt for even more mids.

I like my mids with mids.

What you talking about brosef? I just checked the recto thread and everyone but one joke who posted 10 0 10 in jest had thier mids over noon?

How many Mesas have you ever even played?

4.

Two Singles, a Lonestar, and a Maverick.

The Single Rectos were unusable.

(plus I'm just trolling. I figured I'd get someone with that comment! )

Lots of "Black or white" philosophy in this thread.

That's stupid.

For the music I do, and the whalefart tuning, mids are pretty important. I boost in front of the amp, with the mids pushed on the boost, then boost the mids on the amp, then use a parametric EQ to boost the mids AGAIN at 1.4K.

Sound stupid? For rock stuff, yes.

But when I'm doing the low A, even low F# stuff, it makes room for the kick drum and bass, and replaces woof with punch.


To each his own.

nightflameauto wrote:Loop, your avatar is freaking my shit out. Who can care about mids when a cow's being stretched and sliced in two dimensions?

I use parametric EQ for squawky midrange on my Marshalls.