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Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:40 am
by phrophus
That's a bummer.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:43 am
by fretless
That's odd , are they moving everything to China ?

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:47 am
by sleewell
Hiwatt bob used to post on hcfx, wonder what he is doing?

This sucks

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:53 am
by Elessar [Sly]
Ahh this licks man boob

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:27 am
by Dave
Oh man, that's kind of abrupt. Bummer for sure.


I will own a hiwatt someday.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:29 am
by phrophus
Chuck Nutz wrote:Oh man, that's kind of abrupt. Bummer for sure.


I will own a hiwatt someday.


This, well maybe a Reeves actually, but we'll see when that day arrives.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 am
by cibyl
Says until further notice. They'll probably be back.

Reeves is a fantastic alternative.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:47 am
by 67mike
Hiwatt has been dead since the Mid 80's....coming from a Guy who has owned the real deal. :-B

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09 am
by Van_Muddlestein
It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:22 am
by 100 watt
word. Was listening to The Who's Isle Of Wight show the other night. Pete's toans with those hiwatts were great.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:39 am
by OverDriven
67mike wrote:Hiwatt has been dead since the Mid 80's....coming from a Guy who has owned the real deal. :-B


This.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:44 am
by Dave
67mike wrote:Hiwatt has been dead since the Mid 80's....coming from a Guy who has owned the real deal. :-B



Just curious, what do you mean? They still made custom shop amps built like the originals with partridge transformers and turret board construction.

I mean, a new Reeves is probably the closest to the real deal but I still thought hiwatt was making some sweet amps. Maybe I'm off base as I don't follow them that closely.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:04 am
by 67mike
Chuck Nutz wrote:
67mike wrote:Hiwatt has been dead since the Mid 80's....coming from a Guy who has owned the real deal. :-B



Just curious, what do you mean? They still made custom shop amps built like the originals with partridge transformers and turret board construction.

I mean, a new Reeves is probably the closest to the real deal but I still thought hiwatt was making some sweet amps. Maybe I'm off base as I don't follow them that closely.



I would buy a Reeves in a second...awesome.

Sadly Hiwatt has had its anus raped several times in the last 3 decades....if you want a Hiwatt get one from prior to the late 70s....I stupidly got rid of mine as I no longer needed to shake everyone in my zipcodes filings out! Fuck it was brootally loud.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:26 pm
by Captain Biscuit
Van_Muddlestein wrote:It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.

So much truth.


Still sad to see a decent company go down while arseholes like Marshall and Gibson continue to rake in millions.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:33 pm
by Steveijobzz
Captain Biscuit wrote:
Van_Muddlestein wrote:It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.

So much truth.


Still sad to see a decent company go down while arseholes like Marshall and Gibson continue to rake in millions.


I don't know if I'd go as far as calling Marshall arseholes. I mean, they are catering to their target market as well as branching out into others (both the newer guitarist with the MG and MA series and the rich dentist market with the 1 watt amps). On top of that they re-released one of their best amps (the DSL) with features that people have been asking for for decades.

On the other hand, I will give you Gibson. What a crock there. FIREBIRD X IS TEH FUTURZ. #-o

Too bad about Hiwatt though. I will own a mid-70's DR504 someday. It will be mine.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:43 pm
by Mesa/Kramer
Captain Biscuit wrote:
Van_Muddlestein wrote:It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.

So much truth.


Still sad to see a decent company go down while arseholes like Marshall and Gibson continue to rake in millions.



Marshall and Gibson are assholes because they have learned how to run a sucsessfull business? ~o)

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:49 pm
by soundgardener75
Captain Biscuit wrote:
Van_Muddlestein wrote:It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.

So much truth.


Still sad to see a decent company go down while arseholes like Marshall and Gibson continue to rake in millions.


WAT

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:20 pm
by GRANKOR
the guys who owned Hiwatt for the last few years were total crooks, they got arrested for dealing in stolen guitars. When I lived in England they had a vintage guitar store in the city I lived

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -plot.html

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:25 pm
by wyatt
GRANKOR wrote:the guys who owned Hiwatt for the last few years were total crooks, they got arrested for dealing in stolen guitars. When I lived in England they had a vintage guitar store in the city I lived

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -plot.html


Except that's not the Hiwatt that closed it's doors.

MusicGround owns Hiwatt UK and the UK/EU rights to the Hiwatt trademark. The Hiwatt trademark rights have been split for decades.

hiwatt.com and the North American rights to Hiwatt is owned by Fernandes Guitars. Fernandes has started and ceased production of Hiwatt's multiple times always using a OEM manufacture to make the amps.

As noted, Hiwatt has gone through multiple changes and been shutter over and over again in the last 30 years. Sometimes, the brand would be used to make pretty good (but never great) RI's of their old amps, other times the brand would be used to sell shitty generic middle-of-the-road amps. Hiwatt has been nothing but brand equity for decades.

This is why Reeves has cornered the market on quality repros of classic Hiwatt models. These days NO ONE ever actually buys a new Hiwatt to get legendry Hiwatt tones, they always bought vintage (which are still reasonable) or bought a Reeves, Ceriatone, or similar.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:26 pm
by wyatt
Oh, and how y'all been over here?

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:28 pm
by Devin
wyatt wrote:Oh, and how y'all been over here?



Dude, I was hoping you'd make it here! (i was peavey_impact on HC, by the way)


You were always one of the most knowledgeable amp guys around - good to have you here, too :D

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:34 pm
by Dave
Thanks for the info on current hiwatts. I had no idea.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:38 pm
by Devin
I will say that I played one of the more recent Hiwatt Hi-Gain 100 halfstacks about 4-5 years ago and thought it sounded good. Nothing like the classic Hiwatt tones everyone knows, but still pretty awesome.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:55 pm
by OverDriven
Van_Muddlestein wrote:It sucks that they're not making amps anymore, but I wouldn't play a new one anyway. My next amp will be either a REAL hiwatt(if I find a great deal) or likely a Ceriatone Hey What. I want the old sounding hiwatt tone. Those things are so boner inspiring.


I had the opportunity to hear the Ceriatone next to a real old Hiwatt. It's not in the same league. Much thinner sounding. I would go with a Reeves.

Re: HIWATT Amps ... RIP

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:11 pm
by draelyc
100 watt wrote:word. Was listening to The Who's Isle Of Wight show the other night. Pete's toans with those hiwatts were great.


That dvd kicks seven levels of ass. Pete's toans are a significant part of that.