Murder or Stand Your Ground? Florida Edition 2.0

[Ry Manchu]

I recently started following news sources from all places on the bias spectrum. I get it all now.

This is what I do. I try not to reread articles that have been parroted from the AP wire.

[Noah]

I feed my brain a haphazard diet of crap. If it can't figure shit out, it's just weak. Not my problem.

[madryan]

The news these days is mostly multi-billion dollar corporations paying rich people to convince the middle class that everything is the fault of poor people.

[IndyWS6]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/whi ... li=BBnbfcL

[ajaxlepinski]

As I predicted on pg 1, post #6 of this thread.... manslaughter. (pats self on back)

Ya just can't let people run around shooting each other, without a jury deciding if it was justified or not.

County Sheriff, Bob Gualtieri, who refused to arrest the shooter, should be fired.
Every shooter should be arrested and sent to trial... justice must run it's course.
Whether or not the shooter gets exonerated or convicted, is anyone's guess.

The full video, in case you're interested: https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand-you ... e-sheriff/

[Noah]

Smartest guy in GAB off topic. Don't pat too hard.

[ajaxlepinski]

Smartest guy in GAB off topic. Don't pat too hard.

Hey, it's not often that I have a chance to congratulate myself... the GABros are tough competitors.... if only I could predict which celebrity was going to kick the bucket next.

[GuitarBilly]

As I predicted on pg 1, post #6 of this thread.... manslaughter. (pats self on back)

Ya just can't let people run around shooting each other, without a jury deciding if it was justified or not.

County Sheriff, Bob Gualtieri, who refused to arrest the shooter, should be fired.
Every shooter should be arrested and sent to trial... justice must run it's course.
Whether or not the shooter gets exonerated or convicted, is anyone's guess.

The full video, in case you're interested: https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand-you ... e-sheriff/

He didn't "refuse to arrest", that's just press sensationalism, he passed the evidence on to the DA office and let them make the call. That's the correct procedure in FL in cases where SYG is in question. He won't be fired by doing his job by the book instead of caving in to popular pressure.

[Ry Manchu]

He won't be fired by doing his job by the book instead of caving in to popular pressure.

Caving into popular pressure is how a lot of our Sheriffs get reelected in Florida. I don't think Sheriffs and Judges should be appointed for life without recall, but I also don't think they should have to run for reelection every few years, that is even dumber, but it's what we have, le sigh.

[ajaxlepinski]

As I predicted on pg 1, post #6 of this thread.... manslaughter. (pats self on back)

Ya just can't let people run around shooting each other, without a jury deciding if it was justified or not.

County Sheriff, Bob Gualtieri, who refused to arrest the shooter, should be fired.
Every shooter should be arrested and sent to trial... justice must run it's course.
Whether or not the shooter gets exonerated or convicted, is anyone's guess.

The full video, in case you're interested: https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand-you ... e-sheriff/

He didn't "refuse to arrest", that's just press sensationalism, he passed the evidence on to the DA office and let them make the call. That's the correct procedure in FL in cases where SYG is in question. He won't be fired by doing his job by the book instead of caving in to popular pressure.

Ah ha! Thanks for the insight.
I read it was a State Attorney's Office that stepped in and had Michael Drejka arrested.
Wonder if the Federal DOJ put any pressure on the State to make the arrest?

[long standing member]

Wonder if the Federal DOJ put any pressure on the State to make the arrest?

ya think????

[Krunchmeister]

Bringing charges is not a conviction. It is election season. The way the law is written ,a trial will be post-election and defendant will likely walk.

[Marc G]

Bringing charges is not a conviction. It is election season. The way the law is written ,a trial will be post-election and defendant will likely walk.

yeahhhh.... it will be up to his defense lawyer to make the case for stand your ground now

[ajaxlepinski]

On Aug 24, 2019, the shooter was convicted of manslaughter.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flor ... SKCN1VE0LB

[fretless]

he faces 12 month to 30 years , wonder which way that'll swing

[ajaxlepinski]

I'm guessing 15 years... only because, he was pushed but, not sure if the judge will take that into account. I don't think he'll get more than 20 because, it wasn't premeditated.
Couldn't find anything about the sentencing date.

[fretless]

8 months , place yer bets

[ajaxlepinski]

I dunno... law enforcement doesn't want people thinking it's OK to pull the trigger anytime you get into a scuffle.
I'll come down to 10 years, eligible for parole at 5.

[Ry Manchu]

I'll take 9 years sentenced and out in 6. You have to serve 65% of your time in Florida.

[IndyWS6]

Sentenced to 6, dies in prison because, well, dick...

[ajaxlepinski]

20 years... they really want to keep stand-your-ground shootings to a minimum....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-man- ... 27597.html

Hadn't heard this part:
"The judge said he found it most ironic that Drejka drove up, illegally parked next to Jacobs' car and then confronted her about parking illegally in a handicapped space."

[fretless]

Good , I'm very happy to be so wrong on my guess .

[ajaxlepinski]

You're a good man, Frets.

[fretless]

I sat all day in court , I was a witness , the mess our system is is really something else . The only happy person in the room was the judge . It's functional but everyone hates everyone , Cops do not like defense lawyers I learned ...

[ajaxlepinski]

The g/f and I recently re-watched Twelve Angry Men, with Henry Fonda - great movie.

I can't imagine what went on during the jury deliberation in this case.