Working shit out for the EDM thing.....trying vocals, EQs and shit, seeing what works and doesn't. I'm really liking the Slate stuff for vocals, piano and drums...not really gotten a handle on it as far as guitars go as of yet...
Steinmetzify wrote:I'm down if you and Mike are.....you can't use that one you've been working on though, that shit is sick.
I'm going to use it though lol. But I'm expanding it and changing it up quite a bit.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:46 pm
by Steinmetzify
Figured you would. All good, was drinking when I posted that.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:46 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Steinmetzify wrote:Working shit out for the EDM thing.....trying vocals, EQs and shit, seeing what works and doesn't. I'm really liking the Slate stuff for vocals, piano and drums...not really gotten a handle on it as far as guitars go as of yet...
That's the best mix I've heard from you in this thread so far....
For guitars I would start out with a VMR with Analog Console emulation, because in a studio that would be first. Then I'd maybe throw the FG-N EQ on, highpass around 80-100hz and maybe make some small tweaks, and maybe the VTM. Then I'd route a parrallel post-fx bus and slap the red compressor on it and play with it, and blend the main track and the parrallel bus to taste.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:51 pm
by Steinmetzify
Thanks man. This is a ton of shit to learn for sure....you can throw so many into that rack.
Interesting thing to me is I'm mixing SO LOW because of the gain staging a lot of this stuff adds as you're tweaking.
Everything is at like -14 when I'm recording and it usually ends up peaking at like 0 to +6....different world for sure.
Also you were right about the FG-X...fuck that thing. Fuck that thing right in its ass. What a pain in the dick. Ozone is so much easier to work with and sounds WAY better.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:53 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Yeah I don't know what the fuck is up with the FG-X. Either I'm retarded, or I don't know how to use it, or both in tandem.
I start around -18/-20, so yeah... and you have to be careful that the "Greatness" that you're hearing isn't just the natural effect of juicing a signal.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:36 pm
by VTM
MR RUBATO wrote:
Steinmetzify wrote:Working shit out for the EDM thing.....trying vocals, EQs and shit, seeing what works and doesn't. I'm really liking the Slate stuff for vocals, piano and drums...not really gotten a handle on it as far as guitars go as of yet...
That's the best mix I've heard from you in this thread so far....
For guitars I would start out with a VMR with Analog Console emulation, because in a studio that would be first. Then I'd maybe throw the FG-N EQ on, highpass around 80-100hz and maybe make some small tweaks, and maybe the VTM. Then I'd route a parrallel post-fx bus and slap the red compressor on it and play with it, and blend the main track and the parrallel bus to taste.
Can you post a screen shot of that?
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:04 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Yes. I'll be on my DAW tonight with some tracks that have this routing. I'll try to remember.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:42 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Fat Fish wrote:
MR RUBATO wrote:For guitars I would start out with a VMR with Analog Console emulation, because in a studio that would be first. Then I'd maybe throw the FG-N EQ on, highpass around 80-100hz and maybe make some small tweaks, and maybe the VTM. Then I'd route a parrallel post-fx bus and slap the red compressor on it and play with it, and blend the main track and the parrallel bus to taste.
Can you post a screen shot of that?
In Reaper you can do routing from either the sending or the receiving track. Here I left open the routing window on my receive bus, which is that "lead guitar effected" track. It's receiving from "lead guitar", which has a similar chain described above. You can see the drop menu set to pre-fader/post-fx. This way when I up the volume on the "lead guitar" track it has no affect on the effected bus. That red compressor is set to full 100% mix, because it's on a parallel channel. To "mix" compressed signal with the dry signal it a matter of setting the volume levels for both tracks. To the left you can see I have the compressed track lower than the dry, which is typically what you'd want for a guitar track.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:01 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
There' also an infinitely useful tool, at least infinitely useful for techno fgtry, called side chain compression. It's where the compressor one one track is being triggered by the input of a different track. So when kick drum and bass instrument frequencies start to compete too much in a mix, and that kick starts to lose it's punch and you're getting mud and phase cancellation in the low end, what you should do is apply this technique in the video below... as described by the dude with the dweebie tutorial voice. It will duck the bass output everytime that kick hits so that it can stay punchy and cut through first. See here...
This is getting progressively more chill....I think I might dip on the drums and just use some vocals there, set really low like a pad. I need to get into that mindset though....I don't smoke herb, so it's gotta be a tired type of thing, otherwise I'm just too wired to write that kind of stuff.
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:07 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Sounds like a good start! Keep at it mang! That due date is gonna be here quick.
MR RUBATO wrote:For guitars I would start out with a VMR with Analog Console emulation, because in a studio that would be first. Then I'd maybe throw the FG-N EQ on, highpass around 80-100hz and maybe make some small tweaks, and maybe the VTM. Then I'd route a parrallel post-fx bus and slap the red compressor on it and play with it, and blend the main track and the parrallel bus to taste.
Can you post a screen shot of that?
In Reaper you can do routing from either the sending or the receiving track. Here I left open the routing window on my receive bus, which is that "lead guitar effected" track. It's receiving from "lead guitar", which has a similar chain described above. You can see the drop menu set to pre-fader/post-fx. This way when I up the volume on the "lead guitar" track it has no affect on the effected bus. That red compressor is set to full 100% mix, because it's on a parallel channel. To "mix" compressed signal with the dry signal it a matter of setting the volume levels for both tracks. To the left you can see I have the compressed track lower than the dry, which is typically what you'd want for a guitar track.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Re: The Stuff No One Wants To Hear Thread
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:54 pm
by Steinmetzify
Fucking around today...acoustic stuff, vocal pads, drums, metal. Why not.
Experimenting with hitting record on one track while one is already recording. Worked out ok. vocals always on, perc only when needed. Pretty cool, means I can add shit as/when needed live.
