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RaceU4her wrote:

duncan wrote:3 weeks.

i say memorial day

Yep. Party. Fuck. Leave. It's how I roll. Amps and people alike.

andvari7 wrote:Head or combo?

Head.

GuitarBilly wrote:

IndyWS6 wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:I also went ahead and bought one of the 20w tonight.

Also keping the DSL on the side for a more modern MV option.

I'll post a comparison/review when I get it.

Which 20-watter?

The Marshall Plexi SV20.

This is the way.

I love how this NAD still spurred an immediate second NAD purchase

Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

I LOVE my SV20h. One of the most used pieces of gear I own.

That said, I use it with my Captor direct in to my DAW and hardly play it through a cab.


Curious if you’ll find it useful with the 1987x around. Congrats either way, and look forward to your review/comparison.

RaceU4her wrote:Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

Yeah. I mean, sort of.

Out of the Synergy stuff I kept the Syn1, which is the desktop unit, which is the format I liked the most. I can use it to records with IRs and I use it to add channels to my amps.

I also kept the Friedman BE/BB and HBE modules for Friedman tones.

So I still have what I need for those tones. But the rack synergy and the heads yeah they're gone. But I think consolidated would be a better way to put it.

GuitarBilly wrote:

RaceU4her wrote:Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

Yeah. I mean, sort of.

Out of the Synergy stuff I kept the Syn1, which is the desktop unit, which is the format I liked the most. I can use it to records with IRs and I use it to add channels to my amps.

I also kept the Friedman BE/BB and HBE modules for Friedman tones.

So I still have what I need for those tones. But the rack synergy and the heads yeah they're gone. But I think consolidated would be a better way to put it.

I gotta start writing down my predictions so I remember, think I predicted Easter for the Friedman’s I’m pumped to hear this thing, these kind of slipped under my radar

RaceU4her wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:

RaceU4her wrote:Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

Yeah. I mean, sort of.

Out of the Synergy stuff I kept the Syn1, which is the desktop unit, which is the format I liked the most. I can use it to records with IRs and I use it to add channels to my amps.

I also kept the Friedman BE/BB and HBE modules for Friedman tones.

So I still have what I need for those tones. But the rack synergy and the heads yeah they're gone. But I think consolidated would be a better way to put it.

I gotta start writing down my predictions so I remember, think I predicted Easter for the Friedman’s I’m pumped to hear this thing, these kind of slipped under my radar

I mean... not for nothing, but I bought the Friedman in early 2022 and played 23 shows last year with it. So that amp got quite a bit of use.

GuitarBilly wrote:The Marshall Plexi SV20.

Nice. For years I've wanted to gig a JTM45 on a fullstack full of G12M-25s.

A 20w Plexi fullstack might be even better.

The 20w plexi may have been an impulse purchase

I got my Rivera Rock Crusher out of storage today and it does a fine job taming the 50w.

Oh well.

From what I’ve been told you’ll probably need an attenuator for the SV20 too. So now you can compare! Bonus.

greatmutah wrote:From what I’ve been told you’ll probably need an attenuator for the SV20 too. So now you can compare! Bonus.

The 20w has a 5w setting that should be fine for smaller gigs. But the 50w is way too loud for most venues. However, the attenuator does a good job knocking the volume down to an acceptable gig level without changing the tone much. I actually ended trying both the Rivera and the Bugera and with moderate attenuation both work equally well, which surprised me.

At super low volumes "bedroom" there is definitely a tone loss with both attenuators (more noticeable with the Bugera), but I am not too worried about home volume with these amps because I have the DSL for home volume playing through a cab, so I will be always playing these plexis through my Suhr load and IRs at home.
But yeah it will be fun to compare the 2.

GuitarBilly wrote:

greatmutah wrote:From what I’ve been told you’ll probably need an attenuator for the SV20 too. So now you can compare! Bonus.

The 20w has a 5w setting that should be fine for smaller gigs. But the 50w is way too loud for most venues. However, the attenuator does a good job knocking the volume down to an acceptable gig level without changing the tone much. I actually ended trying both the Rivera and the Bugera and with moderate attenuation both work equally well, which surprised me.

At super low volumes "bedroom" there is definitely a tone loss with both attenuators (more noticeable with the Bugera), but I am not too worried about home volume with these amps because I have the DSL for home volume playing through a cab, so I will be always playing these plexis through my Suhr load and IRs at home.
But yeah it will be fun to compare the 2.

I'm sure the 1987x will crush through the Suhr/IRs setup. It's so nice getting that plexi feel through your studio monitors and not rattling the walls of the house lmao



I'm not a huge fan of the 5 watt setting on the sv20, but the 20 watt setting with mild attenuation sits right about a reasonable band volume. The downside is you'll be the limiter in the mix because you won't have any more volume on tap, but I've used it a few times with good results.

Dave wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:

greatmutah wrote:From what I’ve been told you’ll probably need an attenuator for the SV20 too. So now you can compare! Bonus.

The 20w has a 5w setting that should be fine for smaller gigs. But the 50w is way too loud for most venues. However, the attenuator does a good job knocking the volume down to an acceptable gig level without changing the tone much. I actually ended trying both the Rivera and the Bugera and with moderate attenuation both work equally well, which surprised me.

At super low volumes "bedroom" there is definitely a tone loss with both attenuators (more noticeable with the Bugera), but I am not too worried about home volume with these amps because I have the DSL for home volume playing through a cab, so I will be always playing these plexis through my Suhr load and IRs at home.
But yeah it will be fun to compare the 2.

I'm sure the 1987x will crush through the Suhr/IRs setup. It's so nice getting that plexi feel through your studio monitors and not rattling the walls of the house lmao



I'm not a huge fan of the 5 watt setting on the sv20, but the 20 watt setting with mild attenuation sits right about a reasonable band volume. The downside is you'll be the limiter in the mix because you won't have any more volume on tap, but I've used it a few times with good results.

I'm actually considering moving to the Captor X to consolidate everything into one unit. Right now I'm using the Suhr load and a Two Notes Cab M+ for the IRs. It works fine but it would be easier to have everything in a single unit plus the stereo outs and the attenuator.

Besides I really like the clips you made with the Captor and the Plexi so I know they will work well together..

So do you still have it

spawnofthesith wrote:So do you still have it

Since getting the Captor X, it has made it way easier for me to enjoy amps. Take something and crank the hell out of it and it comes out of a powered monitor in the end. It has been fantastic for an easy way to get into this world.

spawnofthesith wrote:So do you still have it

Maybe.

J/K yes I have it and I'm getting the 20w today.

Also ordered the Captor X and that's arriving tomorrow.

It's a plexi party up in here

MacaroniSalad wrote:

spawnofthesith wrote:So do you still have it

Since getting the Captor X, it has made it way easier for me to enjoy amps. Take something and crank the hell out of it and it comes out of a powered monitor in the end. It has been fantastic for an easy way to get into this world.

Agreed. I can do that already with the Suhr Reactive Load and the Cab M+ but it will be great to do everything with a single unit.

And selling the Suhr and the Cab M+ will pay for most of the Captor X costs so it's a non brainer.

Congrats. Good to see others doing their part to keep the economy going. Taint Nuttin like a Plexi.

GuitarBilly wrote:

RaceU4her wrote:Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

Yeah. I mean, sort of.

Out of the Synergy stuff I kept the Syn1, which is the desktop unit, which is the format I liked the most. I can use it to records with IRs and I use it to add channels to my amps.

I also kept the Friedman BE/BB and HBE modules for Friedman tones.

So I still have what I need for those tones. But the rack synergy and the heads yeah they're gone. But I think consolidated would be a better way to put it.

So the Syn2 is gone too?

FAKA! wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:

RaceU4her wrote:Wait, so what happened to the synergy rig and the Friedman’s? Are they gone?

Yeah. I mean, sort of.

Out of the Synergy stuff I kept the Syn1, which is the desktop unit, which is the format I liked the most. I can use it to records with IRs and I use it to add channels to my amps.

I also kept the Friedman BE/BB and HBE modules for Friedman tones.

So I still have what I need for those tones. But the rack synergy and the heads yeah they're gone. But I think consolidated would be a better way to put it.

So the Syn2 is gone too?

Not yet but it's for sale

GuitarBilly wrote:

MacaroniSalad wrote:

spawnofthesith wrote:So do you still have it

Since getting the Captor X, it has made it way easier for me to enjoy amps. Take something and crank the hell out of it and it comes out of a powered monitor in the end. It has been fantastic for an easy way to get into this world.

Agreed. I can do that already with the Suhr Reactive Load and the Cab M+ but it will be great to do everything with a single unit.

And selling the Suhr and the Cab M+ will pay for most of the Captor X costs so it's a non brainer.

So I bought this fryette power station on Sunday on Reverb

Comes Monday no shipping or communication. I asked them when would they ship.
They said "we had a family emergency can we ship on Wednesday?" No problem, it happens.

Comes Wednesday no shipping or communication.

Thursday morning, still no updates.

Had enough of their shit and requested a refund. Now they claim it went out late night on Wednesday. I call UPS and they say "nope, we don't have it".

Seller approved the refund "conditional on returning the unit". WTF. They didn't even ship it. How can I return it??

Got a case open with reverb and finally got a refund. Holy hell.

South Shore Guitars in Long Island is the dealer. Don't recommend.