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KCTigerChief wrote:

ovid9 wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

Because they actually ARE drunken rednecks and hillbillys!

Drunken white people who live a different lifestyle then you? Gotcha.

That must mean all black people that live a different lifestyle than you are all n-words?

All people who have a different sexual preference than you are phags?

All middle eastern people are muslim terrorists?

You just proved my point, actually.

Would the make the British phags, also, because they put phags in their mouth?

KCTigerChief wrote:

Nateispro wrote:

Jay wrote:

Nateispro wrote:Billy's response made me lulz so damn hard... this thread made my day.... also i don't see the point of nascar... if i wanted to watch someone driving around in a circle all day i'd go see my grandma try to drive here little kart with 2 flat tires

It gave the moonshiners something to compete in on an endorsement level. Now, 70 years later, go fast, turn left!

well back then it had a reason at least... now it's just so drunk rednecks can have a reason to beat up there neighbor

I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

I guess it's because it refers more to a certain behavior/style than to an ethnic group... it happens with Latinos too, with some folks being called chollos, I won't be offended by that one because I know it refers to a very specific style (the whole pseudo-thug schtick) that I really don't identify myself with, even though I am also Latino...

The funny part is that a lot of these guys (rednecks and chollos alike) wear the label with pride

GuitarBilly wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:

Nateispro wrote:

Jay wrote:

Nateispro wrote:Billy's response made me lulz so damn hard... this thread made my day.... also i don't see the point of nascar... if i wanted to watch someone driving around in a circle all day i'd go see my grandma try to drive here little kart with 2 flat tires

It gave the moonshiners something to compete in on an endorsement level. Now, 70 years later, go fast, turn left!

well back then it had a reason at least... now it's just so drunk rednecks can have a reason to beat up there neighbor

I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

I guess it's because it refers more to a certain behavior/style than to an ethnic group... it happens with Latinos too, with some folks being called chollos, I won't be offended by that one because I know it refers to a very specific style (the whole pseudo-thug schtick) that I really don't identify myself with, even though I am also Latino...

The funny part is that a lot of these guys (rednecks and chollos alike) wear the label with pride

And so true to that last line.

GuitarBilly wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:

Nateispro wrote:

Jay wrote:

Nateispro wrote:Billy's response made me lulz so damn hard... this thread made my day.... also i don't see the point of nascar... if i wanted to watch someone driving around in a circle all day i'd go see my grandma try to drive here little kart with 2 flat tires

It gave the moonshiners something to compete in on an endorsement level. Now, 70 years later, go fast, turn left!

well back then it had a reason at least... now it's just so drunk rednecks can have a reason to beat up there neighbor

I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

I guess it's because it refers more to a certain behavior/style than to an ethnic group... it happens with Latinos too, with some folks being called chollos, I won't be offended by that one because I know it refers to a very specific style (the whole pseudo-thug schtick) that I really don't identify myself with, even though I am also Latino...

The funny part is that a lot of these guys (rednecks and chollos alike) wear the label with pride

They do, for sure...But, so do, pardon me for using this word, niggas...I mean, they are proud to say that shit ALL...THE...TIME...to each other, about each other, etc...But yet, you still get labeled a bigot if you mention anything remotely similar to that about that type of black person...I just don't see the difference between that, and the using the term redneck in a derogatory fashion. It's really the same exact thing...only one will get you lambasted or worse, and the other will get many people piling on the pile of insults...

BTW, "fag" refers to a certain behavior and style too...yet you're still a bigot if you say that, am I right? And I know PLENTY of gay people who wear that label with "pride"

Just an observation I've noticed recently. Perhaps we should leave it there, before the PC police come in and slam me against the wall.

BTW, no...I'm not a redneck.

KCTigerChief wrote:
They do, for sure...But, so do, pardon me for using this word, niggas...I mean, they are proud to say that shit ALL...THE...TIME...to each other, about each other, etc...But yet, you still get labeled a bigot if you mention anything remotely similar to that about that type of black person...I just don't see the difference between that, and the using the term redneck in a derogatory fashion. It's really the same exact thing...only one will get you lambasted or worse, and the other will get many people piling on the pile of insults...

BTW, "fag" refers to a certain behavior and style too...yet you're still a bigot if you say that, am I right? And I know PLENTY of gay people who wear that label with "pride"

Just an observation I've noticed recently. Perhaps we should leave it there, before the PC police come in and slam me against the wall.

BTW, no...I'm not a redneck.

1. Because that term only in recent usage has come to mean a "certain type" of black person. It was originally used to denote ALL black people and used by many even up to current day to describe blacks in a derogatory manner. I'm not sure how because some misguided black folk have decided adopting the word for their own use somehow makes it ok for those who used it for decades as a generic derogatory term.

2. Again, with fag, its in general a derogatory term. Do some gay people use it? Often like a certain word is used with blacks? Yup. I suppose its the idea that using a derogatory term takes "ownership" of it. But in general, that's only among the population, not "outsiders."

Around here, redneck is more descriptor than anything. You usually put "dumbass" in front of it to make it derogatory.

ovid9 wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:
They do, for sure...But, so do, pardon me for using this word, niggas...I mean, they are proud to say that shit ALL...THE...TIME...to each other, about each other, etc...But yet, you still get labeled a bigot if you mention anything remotely similar to that about that type of black person...I just don't see the difference between that, and the using the term redneck in a derogatory fashion. It's really the same exact thing...only one will get you lambasted or worse, and the other will get many people piling on the pile of insults...

BTW, "fag" refers to a certain behavior and style too...yet you're still a bigot if you say that, am I right? And I know PLENTY of gay people who wear that label with "pride"

Just an observation I've noticed recently. Perhaps we should leave it there, before the PC police come in and slam me against the wall.

BTW, no...I'm not a redneck.

1. Because that term only in recent usage has come to mean a "certain type" of black person. It was originally used to denote ALL black people and used by many even up to current day to describe blacks in a derogatory manner. I'm not sure how because some misguided black folk have decided adopting the word for their own use somehow makes it ok for those who used it for decades as a generic derogatory term.

2. Again, with fag, its in general a derogatory term. Do some gay people use it? Often like a certain word is used with blacks? Yup. I suppose its the idea that using a derogatory term takes "ownership" of it. But in general, that's only among the population, not "outsiders."

Around here, redneck is more descriptor than anything. You usually put "dumbass" in front of it to make it derogatory.

Fuck it I was just making an observation about how I think it's funny that people who generally preach acceptance label a group of people different than them in derogatory fashion...Guess it's just me who notices that.

Carry on...my wayward sons?

KCTigerChief wrote:
Fuck it I was just making an observation about how I think it's funny that people who generally preach acceptance label a group of people different than them in derogatory fashion...Guess it's just me who notices that.

Carry on...my wayward sons?

Naw, I'm not saying I'm right in feeling that way. I'm just sick of the absolute pieces of trash that live around here. Pathetic useless entitled assholes that blame their problems on people who look different than them.

Screw em.

I'm also sick and tired of hearing people who look different referred to in terms that no one would say to the party in questions face. Just sick of racist fucks and there's just too many of them around here.

roflmao, dammit, we got this moved and ppl are missing out on the initial lulz.

Sorry billy & KcT!

ovid9 wrote:roflmao, dammit, we got this moved and ppl are missing out on the initial lulz.

Sorry billy & KcT!

They can still see it No reason for apologies, I started it

Fine with me to take the discussion to whatever direction you guys want to (as long as it stays respectful and within the rules) but yeah I'm moving it to the "Hot" forum as seems to be a better fit for it now. But carry on.

ovid9 wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

Because they actually ARE drunken rednecks and hillbillys!

Redneck: def ... a glorious lack of sophistication.

Hardtail wrote:

ovid9 wrote:

KCTigerChief wrote:I've never understood why labeling an entire group of people "drunk rednecks" or "retarded hillbillys" is ok, yet when you label any other group a derogatory name (gays, blacks, middle easterners, etc...) you are a bigot...The same people who get frustrated over people saying things about the groups in parenthesis are the same ones who preach acceptance and equality...yet, they are the first to call out a group of white people in the same derogatory manner.

Not saying this is you, it just kind of blows my mind how dumb people are.

Because they actually ARE drunken rednecks and hillbillys!

Redneck: def ... a glorious lack of sophistication.

I offer, exhibit A.

Southern. Racefan. Don't give a shit.

though I beat the piss out of a pretty boy who kept making snide "redneck" & "hillbilly" remarks.

the business end of a steel toed Brahma boot ... Works for me.

I'm half White and half Latino and what's strange about it is that neither Whites nor Latinos associate me with their race. When I'm in a room full of white people they see me as Latino. When I'm in a room full of Latinos they see me as White. Personally I feel able to relate to both but I'm a bit race-displaced which is fine with me. At the end of the day I'm just a standing monkey like everyone else.

Shit got serious in here...

Mike LX-R wrote:I'm half White and half Latino and what's strange about it is that neither Whites nor Latinos associate me with their race. When I'm in a room full of white people they see me as Latino. When I'm in a room full of Latinos they see me as White. Personally I feel able to relate to both but I'm a bit race-displaced which is fine with me. At the end of the day I'm just a standing monkey like everyone else.

I've noticed this with every single mixed race person I've been friend with (well the 2 exceptions are those who's mix you can't even recognize).
Kind of sucks sometimes I'm sure. I specifically noticed this with my black/white friends more than any other.

K-Bizzle wrote:

Mike LX-R wrote:I'm half White and half Latino and what's strange about it is that neither Whites nor Latinos associate me with their race. When I'm in a room full of white people they see me as Latino. When I'm in a room full of Latinos they see me as White. Personally I feel able to relate to both but I'm a bit race-displaced which is fine with me. At the end of the day I'm just a standing monkey like everyone else.

I've noticed this with every single mixed race person I've been friend with (well the 2 exceptions are those who's mix you can't even recognize).
Kind of sucks sometimes I'm sure. I specifically noticed this with my black/white friends more than any other.

Yes, I know a couple mulattoes. Seems VERY rough.

Mike LX-R wrote:Yes, I know a couple mulattoes. Seems VERY rough.

Agreed.
Always too black for your white friends and too white for your black friends it seems.

Race? I hate marathons.

because they're always full of Africans

What in the blue hell...

Mike LX-R wrote:I'm half White and half Latino and what's strange about it is that neither Whites nor Latinos associate me with their race. When I'm in a room full of white people they see me as Latino. When I'm in a room full of Latinos they see me as White. Personally I feel able to relate to both but I'm a bit race-displaced which is fine with me. At the end of the day I'm just a standing monkey like everyone else.

Im more Indian (or Native American, if you wanna be all PC & shit) than I am white, but with the heavy beard & pale skin, you wouldnt know it.

I didnt know that the hot chick from The today Show was Latino (Natalie. Hawtness)

Are you still a bigot if you can't spell the group you hate?
Or is that further evidence?

I've been transplanted & now work in northern NJ & am way more redneck than anyone I work with - none of 'em know how to bait a hook, load a rifle or who Jimmie Johnson or Travit Tritt are. They don't get me...

Hardtail wrote:I've been transplanted & now work in northern NJ & am way more redneck than anyone I work with - none of 'em know how to bait a hook, load a rifle or who Jimmie Johnson or Travit Tritt are. They don't get me...

I am shocked

Hardtail wrote:I've been transplanted & now work in northern NJ & am way more redneck than anyone I work with - none of 'em know how to bait a hook, load a rifle or who Jimmie Johnson or Travit Tritt are. They don't get me...

I bet they 'get' big cow udder type boobs, though - amirite??!?!?!?!