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Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:29 pm
by draelyc
atrox wrote:
draelyc wrote:
atrox wrote:I have the 50 Watt DSL. That, with the C12 mod is great for low volume jamming. Great clean channel. Great crunch mode and the Red channel 1 is great at low volumes with the C12 clipped.



Cool ~ so, what exactly does the mod change from stock, soundwise? Also, what speakers are you running your DSL with?

Thanks, mang!



The C12 is a bright cap, but it's on the gain control, not the volume. So it basically makes it very ice picky at lower gain settings. Clipping it keeps it fuller sounding and usable at low volumes. It also makes the red channel more compatible with the green channel, so the shared EQ is not an issue.

I use Marshall cabs with a 75/65 X pattern.


Dig! Sounds rather like the bright cap that Dave clipped on the high treble volume on the Plexi, before he sold it to me. I imagine this C12 mod doesn't take anything away from the DSL when it's cranked, either, right? Cool!

<feels DSL gas beginning to grow>

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:35 pm
by atrox
draelyc wrote:
atrox wrote:
draelyc wrote:
atrox wrote:I have the 50 Watt DSL. That, with the C12 mod is great for low volume jamming. Great clean channel. Great crunch mode and the Red channel 1 is great at low volumes with the C12 clipped.



Cool ~ so, what exactly does the mod change from stock, soundwise? Also, what speakers are you running your DSL with?

Thanks, mang!



The C12 is a bright cap, but it's on the gain control, not the volume. So it basically makes it very ice picky at lower gain settings. Clipping it keeps it fuller sounding and usable at low volumes. It also makes the red channel more compatible with the green channel, so the shared EQ is not an issue.

I use Marshall cabs with a 75/65 X pattern.


Dig! Sounds rather like the bright cap that Dave clipped on the high treble volume on the Plexi, before he sold it to me. I imagine this C12 mod doesn't take anything away from the DSL when it's cranked, either, right? Cool!

<feels DSL gas beginning to grow>



it actually makes it a bit more like a cranked amp, even though it's on the gain control and not the volume. The DSL's Red channel is notorious for sounding awful at low volumes, unless you really crank the gain. At high volumes, the power section is cranked enough to make it sound better, but at low volumes, it's terrible. The mod just really evens things out and makes the red channel sound tits at any volume. It's easily reversible too. Just clip one leg and solder it back if you want it back.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:36 pm
by draelyc
Indeed .... (begins to scheme)

Srsly, thanks, atrox. :thu:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:38 pm
by GAS KING
DSL sounds like a Plexi on birth control and estrogen.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:41 pm
by GuitarBilly
I did the C12 mod and ended up reversing it to stock, I like it that way, I just roll back the treble knob when I am playing at low volumes and it's fine.

But I like the extra "edge" you get at high volumes with the stock config.

I could use the amp either way, but I ended up preferring it stock.

I use mine with V30s. DSLs will work with just about any speakers though, it's not picky at all.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:43 pm
by gb74
fuck I keep forgetting to sign off my admin account before I post. I hate posting like an Admin. Fuck the admin!! :lol:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:48 pm
by TurboPablo
Billy BiPolar.

Have you told yourself off yet?

Drae- I've already mentioned how much I love my DSL40C. Switchable to half power, it's plenty loud either way. Stick it on a cabinet to spread it out. Or take it as a 1/12. It's very versatile.

Most importantly, it rocks like only a Marshall can.

Everyone else is just tooling for anus.

I just got back from the gym. Coherence is not my specialty right now.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 pm
by Dave
Drae, swear off gear buying/selling for 3 months.



Keep exactly what you have. Play it. Learn to use it all. Get accustomed to it all. Most importantly quit over thinking this stuff!! If ya like the plexi after 3 months then keep it. If not, sell it. There will always be another plexi.






Except sell those prissy Hamers and get ya a Gibson. :cop:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:07 pm
by draelyc
guitarbilly74 wrote:I did the C12 mod and ended up reversing it to stock, I like it that way, I just roll back the treble knob when I am playing at low volumes and it's fine.

But I like the extra "edge" you get at high volumes with the stock config.

I could use the amp either way, but I ended up preferring it stock.

I use mine with V30s. DSLs will work with just about any speakers though, it's not picky at all.


Hey, Billy ~ glad you chimed in on this one! Interestingly enough, it's a V30 in the Bonneville combo, so I know I can get along with that speaker. I'd be interested to hear a DSL through my Greenie cab, though ~ would make sense, given how conflicted I am between vintage & more modern tones.

nb4 somebody says VINTAGE MODERN! :cop: :lol:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:08 pm
by draelyc
Chuck Nutz wrote:Drae, swear off gear buying/selling for 3 months.



Keep exactly what you have. Play it. Learn to use it all. Get accustomed to it all. Most importantly quit over thinking this stuff!! If ya like the plexi after 3 months then keep it. If not, sell it. There will always be another plexi.


Dave, this is a wise, considered, and insightful suggestion ... and I want no part of it. :facepalm: :lol: You know that ain't how I roll, brah! :whistle:

Except sell those prissy Hamers and get ya a Gibson. :cop:
:shoot:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:12 pm
by GAS KING
I finally see what's wrong with this forum. It's about being a macho man.

:facepalm:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:27 pm
by Dave
Hugh Jaynus wrote:I finally see what's wrong with this forum. It's about being a macho man.

:facepalm:



how in the world did you get 80 gajillion posts over there without realizing that?

now get a 4x12

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:28 pm
by GAS KING
keep compensating. :o

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:33 pm
by Dave
Hugh Jaynus wrote:keep compensating. :o



I am. I'm up to 4 4x12's.


maybe it's time for you to find a forum more your speed. You know, where all the pros hang out and make fun of us lowly weekend warriors that overcompensate with oversized gear.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:34 pm
by 100 watt
lol. I still hear Will Ferrell when I read Chuck's poasts

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:37 pm
by GAS KING
Chuck Nutz wrote:I am. I'm up to 4 4x12's.
maybe it's time for you to find a forum more your speed. You know, where all the pros hang out and make fun of us lowly weekend warriors that overcompensate with oversized gear.



I figured it wouldn't take long for it to degrade to this. :-t

I'm a weekend warrior too, and I play a JTM into a 2x12. It's called class. try it sometime.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:43 pm
by GAS KING
class, honesty, and honor are all I have.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:46 pm
by Dave
Hugh Jaynus wrote:
Chuck Nutz wrote:I am. I'm up to 4 4x12's.
maybe it's time for you to find a forum more your speed. You know, where all the pros hang out and make fun of us lowly weekend warriors that overcompensate with oversized gear.



I figured it wouldn't take long for it to degrade to this. :-t

I'm a weekend warrior too, and I play a JTM into a 2x12. It's called class. try it sometime.



I gigged this setup quite a bit:

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now, shuffle on down to wherever you superior badasses hang out and leave us overcompensaters alone. I dunno how people using 4x12's offends you so much, but we're trying to laugh and joke around in here. You're here to shit on people. Fuck off.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:48 pm
by KCTigerChief
Hugh Jaynus wrote:
Chuck Nutz wrote:I am. I'm up to 4 4x12's.
maybe it's time for you to find a forum more your speed. You know, where all the pros hang out and make fun of us lowly weekend warriors that overcompensate with oversized gear.



I figured it wouldn't take long for it to degrade to this. :-t

I'm a weekend warrior too, and I play a JTM into a 2x12. It's called class. try it sometime.


Who were you over at the [forum that shall not be named]?

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:49 pm
by GAS KING
I'm shitting on people? nice.

Mostly just you, I give what I get.

Try being a normal person with me, and you will receive the same treatment. cunt.

never met a cunt classier than a fuck.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:50 pm
by Dave
Hugh Jaynus wrote:I'm shitting on people? nice.

Mostly just you, I give what I get.

Try being a normal person with me, and you will receive the same treatment. cunt.

never met a cunt classier than a fuck.




Don't be such a Debbie downer, mr Pro Weekend Warrior.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:52 pm
by GAS KING
Chuck Nutz wrote:Don't be such a Debbie downer, mr Pro Weekend Warrior.



K, Mr. Cool.

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:52 pm
by sleewell
Hugh Jaynus wrote:class, honesty, and honor are all I have.



:wank:


lets us know when you have gotten down of that high horse and want to converse with us normal folk

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:53 pm
by GAS KING
:lol:

Re: I imagine I am gonna take so much flack for this...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:54 pm
by TurboPablo
Massengill.