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Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:33 am
by Tortuga
guitarbilly74 wrote:I did the loop mod and did not like the tone at all, it takes off a lot of the organic feel of the amp. I spoke with Mike Soldano about it and he also advises against it.


This is good to know - was wondering why something like this wasn't feasible.

Billy - I asked you a while back about the Alesis Quadraverb. Did you state it was compatible, and was there something special you advised I do about making patches work?

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 am
by Jase01
Guys, I'm a self admitted noob to most of the tech stuff, so dont be too hard on me! haha
Anyway I have a JCA22H and when i first turn the amp on there's an initial burst of volume for a second then
it settles down. Its also a bit noisy.
Anyone have any ideas??

Cheers

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:17 am
by neilrocks25
Just a combo with depth mod and clean switch.. And little tinkering with the tone to make it a touch more darker and pedal friendly.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:35 am
by Tortuga
Looks like most of the old gang has checked in now - except Edge11, of course. Glad to see ya'll made it, and we have some new blood, too.

Jase - I'm not sure what you're describing - only time I might get a rush of volume is when I kick the channel switch the first time after I power up (not sure if its going from clean to OD or vice-versa). I do get some hiss on my amp, but I'm dealing with shitty power at my house, have the covers off my pre-tubes, and may have some wiring on my mods that may not be 100% kosher. But it still sounds gooooood :rawk: . Can you post a clip?

Neil - I'm dying to grammar nazi your 'more darker' thing as payback for the legos lecture (I just can't help myself), but I'll just leave it at that. Can't wait to hear what you come up with on the tone and pedal quests.

CTN - that baffle and speaker grillcloth looks friggin' killer!

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:45 am
by atrox
I miss my modded JCA100. Had the Depth mod. It was a great second amp. It was just sitting around and my buddy needed a new amp, so i sold it to him.

I also had the effects loop mod for about a week. It killed the amp volume-wise and tone-wise. Don't ever do that mod. Honestly, it didnt help the issue that much anyway. Delays sounded slightly better i guess.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:48 am
by atrox
also.. anyone with a 50 or 100, i highly recommend trying the Sovtek 6l6wxt+'s. They really tightened up the low end made that amp scream.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:10 pm
by Tortuga
atrox wrote:also.. anyone with a 50 or 100, i highly recommend trying the Sovtek 6l6wxt+'s. They really tightened up the low end made that amp scream.


I've heard that from more than one place - might have been you and Billy a while back. I'm still using the set of JJs I picked up when I first got the amp, so I don't really have any basis of comparison. Might just have to check into the wxt+'s when I change them out.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:03 pm
by edge11
I'm going to bring a consolidated version of the mod threads here in a couple of days.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:06 pm
by GuitarBilly
GRIMESPACE wrote:Billy - I asked you a while back about the Alesis Quadraverb. Did you state it was compatible, and was there something special you advised I do about making patches work?

The Quadraverb is fully compatible. Most rack effects are.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:06 pm
by Yarbicus
edge11 wrote:I'm going to bring a consolidated version of the mod threads here in a couple of days.

:thu:

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:19 pm
by GuitarBilly
atrox wrote:I miss my modded JCA100. Had the Depth mod. It was a great second amp.

+1 Really miss my JCA100. I will buy another sometime this year.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:19 pm
by GuitarBilly
edge11 wrote:I'm going to bring a consolidated version of the mod threads here in a couple of days.


oh hell yes. Welcome dude. Good to see you here. What took you so long?? :clock: :)

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:08 pm
by Tortuga
edge11 wrote:I'm going to bring a consolidated version of the mod threads here in a couple of days.


Glad to see you, Edge - we need to get those other guys that have been posting like crazy over on the mod thread at HCAF to come here, too. I think they're the only ones keeping the lights on :lol:

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:32 am
by Jay
I'll try and dig out my notebook of mods that should work with the JCA that I did to an SLO Clone. Got misplaced in the moving......or did I hide it from my kids? I can't remember. lol

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:41 am
by Jay
GRIMESPACE wrote:
guitarbilly74 wrote:I did the loop mod and did not like the tone at all, it takes off a lot of the organic feel of the amp. I spoke with Mike Soldano about it and he also advises against it.


This is good to know - was wondering why something like this wasn't feasible.

Billy - I asked you a while back about the Alesis Quadraverb. Did you state it was compatible, and was there something special you advised I do about making patches work?


It's not that the change isn't feasible. After the change, the tone gets a bit brighter and the playability is a little stiffer. But if you have an FX unit that doesn't work with the stock loop, and you can't live without it, it's a good compromise. You just don't get as much of that liquid flow that you had before. I built my SLO while I was also playing a Splawn QR and a Mark III, so I was used to "unforgiving". lol

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:55 am
by Jay
atrox wrote:also.. anyone with a 50 or 100, i highly recommend trying the Sovtek 6l6wxt+'s. They really tightened up the low end made that amp scream.

SED =C= and Svetlana 6L6s have a nice tight bottom too, but with fatter mids, where I'd say the WXT+ has a glassier top end.

EH 6L6 is VERY warm with big lows.

JJ, Ruby MSTR, and TADs are kind of in the middle.

Ruby and TAD are very "3D" sounding.

JJs scream, but also have a big bottom end.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:37 pm
by Jay
Now I'm kind of wondering: For those of you who did the FX loop mod and came out with poor results, did you also do the SLO mods to your amp? Just wondering if some of the other stock values around the JCA loop just don't agree as well as it translates from the SLO to the JCA.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:38 pm
by atrox
Jay wrote:
GRIMESPACE wrote:
guitarbilly74 wrote:I did the loop mod and did not like the tone at all, it takes off a lot of the organic feel of the amp. I spoke with Mike Soldano about it and he also advises against it.


This is good to know - was wondering why something like this wasn't feasible.

Billy - I asked you a while back about the Alesis Quadraverb. Did you state it was compatible, and was there something special you advised I do about making patches work?


It's not that the change isn't feasible. After the change, the tone gets a bit brighter and the playability is a little stiffer. But if you have an FX unit that doesn't work with the stock loop, and you can't live without it, it's a good compromise. You just don't get as much of that liquid flow that you had before. I built my SLO while I was also playing a Splawn QR and a Mark III, so I was used to "unforgiving". lol



you also lose a considerable amount of volume with the mod. Olaf explained to me why, but i don't remember. You just have to kick up the volume a couple numbers, so if you are already pushing the amp volume-wise, it may be an issue. For me though, i just hated the tone with the mod. It was very stiff and awkward.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:39 pm
by atrox
Jay wrote:Now I'm kind of wondering: For those of you who did the FX loop mod and came out with poor results, did you also do the SLO mods to your amp? Just wondering if some of the other stock values around the JCA loop just don't agree as well as it translates from the SLO to the JCA.


I did not have the SLO mods. Just some SGR switchouts to allow EL34's if i wanted and a depth mod.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:28 pm
by Jay
When I did the mod to my SLO clone, I didn't notice much of a volume drop, if any. Some extra stiffness and brightness, yes.

Not trying to kick a dying horse here, guys. Just trying to find a good alternative for some guys and gals who can't live without certain pedals. My Carbon Copy and old Boss DD3 delays and some old reverb (can't remember which one) used to get all garbled with the stock loop. They were much happier with the loop mod.

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:30 pm
by Mesa/Kramer
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Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:48 pm
by snapitup12
My friend has an Digitech RP500 cheap, will this work with this amp?

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:45 pm
by Hipster Salad
I've had my JCA100H for 2 1/2 years and I tell you I'm not looking back. Only thing that would rip me from this is a fully loaded 3 channel monster from Jet City :p

Latest incarnation of my rig. This thing SMOKES with the Gflex cab (Eminence Wizards loaded). Peavey/'Bogner' rig was my backup (The rack was just for the P.A)

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Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:05 am
by snapitup12
What are good tubes for all around sound from classic rock to metal?

Re: JCA OWNERS!!! (RE)JOIN THE JET CITY LOUNGE!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:13 am
by Tortuga
sahlomonic wrote:I've had my JCA100H for 2 1/2 years and I tell you I'm not looking back. Only thing that would rip me from this is a fully loaded 3 channel monster from Jet City :p

Latest incarnation of my rig. This thing SMOKES with the Gflex cab (Eminence Wizards loaded). Peavey/'Bogner' rig was my backup (The rack was just for the P.A)

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Bitchin' :thu: