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Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:00 pm
by Sasquatch
Y0UNGBL00D wrote:dudes who disrespect the rules in this thread, or the idea that there are rules: out of style fogies playing in basements.
All in good humor.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't play in a band with someone who wore a bowling shirt or a team jersey or any of that crap. You also don't go get shitfaced aNd get on stage and drop the f-bomb or any other general douche-bagging ploys. Yes, you show up on time, be professional about everything from showing appreciation to the bar owner and crowd, etc... Still, I find ironic humor when rules are applied to rock and roll which has traditionally been about having no rules. Also, some of these people's rules are fucking dumb.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:03 pm
by Schweezly
ovid9 wrote:Schweezly wrote:I'm usually against shorts, but a few weeks ago we went out for a weekend of shows at it was a solid 95 degrees. Normally, I'd still wear jeans, but our fucking Suburban has no AC. I still had them with me. We get to the "venue" the show is at...no fucking AC there either. 100+ with hi humidity? Yea right, fashion went out the window.
I was a douche that day for sure

Were they athletic shorts? Cause, that would be awesome.
Haha, no. Cargo khaki shorts. Probably the first time I worse shorts at a show in 5-10 years
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:09 pm
by ShaneV
I was in the grocery store earlier and I saw a dude wearing short, Tobias Funke type jorts, knee high socks and Birkenstocks. He is my new fashion icon and the man all bands should aspire to dress like. Seriously, that guy don't give a fuck.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 pm
by ovid9
Schweezly wrote:
Haha, no. Cargo khaki shorts. Probably the first time I worse shorts at a show in 5-10 years
Dammit.

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:23 pm
by Sasquatch
Dave, I didn't mean to be a douche earlier. Just some humor.
I guess my own rules are that you need not exceed certain thresholds. For instance, don't show up wih what you wear Saturday mornings around the house. No fucking makeup.
Are you an awesome player? You can get away with more. Our bass plays wears camo shorts, black graphic tees and white sneakers. I looks great on him and it helps he can rip a bass into pieces. We used to soundcheck to "Jerry was a race car driver."
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:41 pm
by nakedzen
My only rule is "you don't use my amp as a coaster for your beer".
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:25 am
by GuitarBilly
Sasquatch wrote:
Are you an awesome player? You can get away with more.
Absolutely. And it works the other way around too. If you want to set any "band rules" you better be a badass or not a single fuck will be given..
I have no patience with guys that are barely scratching average and want to dictate band or stage rules. Lead singers are particularly guilty of this kind of shit.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:44 am
by Chris Z
BrendanO wrote:Stage rules are simple:
If any band member is wearing camo cargo shorts, quit the the band.
If any band member has a Dime guitar, quit the band.
If any band member has a Tool tattoo, quit the band.
If any band member is a libertarian, quit the band.
If any band member plays in flip-flops, quit the band
If any band member is playing through a Genz Benz El Diablo, quit the band.
If any band member asks/begs for shots while on stage, quit the band.
/thread
I'm adding anyone that wants to play a white stripes cover and wears scarves.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:48 am
by Schweezly
GuitarBilly wrote:Sasquatch wrote:
Are you an awesome player? You can get away with more.
Absolutely. And it works the other way around too. If you want to set any "band rules" you better be a badass or not a single fuck will be given..
I have no patience with guys that are barely scratching average and want to dictate band or stage rules. Lead singers are particularly guilty of this kind of shit.
You should hear my singer...
Him: guys, we need to have a similar look. We need to dress well. We should do "X, Y, Z"
Me: dude, you wear baggy jeans ripped at the bottom and 5 year old $10 Asics that have holes in them

He also asked me where I black pants. He didn't know where to buy black pants...
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:12 am
by Devin
ovid9 wrote:Most of you guy's stage rules absolutely blow and I find the idea of rock n' roll stage rules hilarious.
Soo this
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:02 am
by Telephant
Y0UNGBL00D wrote:100 watt wrote:Skulls, Grim Reapers, demons / demonic shit on logos, banners, etc look "kid-ish" to me. Then again anything sterotypical "metal".
No backwards baseball caps. There's only a few reasons for a grown man to wear a baseball cap backwards:
He's painting.
He's welding.
He's riding a motorcycle or ATV.
He's driving a convertible.
or.... he's fixin' to suck somebody's dick.
No home- made / cheesey looking merch, banners, etc.
Dont be a ham.
Dont call out a mistake.
No rants / speeches.
Dot get hammered before hand.
Dont talk to the crowd like a titty bar DJ.
Dont attempt to play "works in progress" / shit that isnt 100% ironed down.
Look for cues from others.
Dont try to throw in drum fills your not sure of.
NEVER let a bass player or drummer run sound.
Dont touch my shit.
Dont bring anything you're not gonna use.
Dont wear your own band's shirt.
No solo "singer with an accoustic" coffe shop song bullshit.
Have fun.
Dont talk like you're bigger than you are. "This is our hit song off our last album"
My rules anyway. Not playing with anyone at the moment. Some day maybe I'll find some folks to do something with.
dont know how i missed these earlier, but spot fucking on, all of them
and to paul, et al: heres what needs to be understood about this thread
1. until now, these rules are unspoken. its not like (again, until now) we right them down and live by them. its just shit we see other people do that make them look unprofessional, amateurish, etc.
2. any band that looks like they dont give a crap about any of this that you see? they have probably thought at least once about it and dressed/acted accordingly. at the very least, if they havent, its just natural and if one of the band members walked out in one of these rock and roll wardrobe faux pas, they would immediately notice. that is if they arent in korn or metallica.
3. its tongue in cheek, mostly. yall do what you do. whether i cringe and snicker with my friends at the shows or not is between me. you would probably point out 100 really dumb looking-to-you things that i would pull live. chime in! just dont say that there are no rules, and that anyone who makes them are uptight twats. just being honest.
the titty bar dj voice

instantly let me know how pandering and soulless of a cover band you are.
This. Curious how many dudes upset over this thread were in a band where all 5 of you mongoloids looked completely different and lacked any kind of cohesiveness. Maybe hits a little too close to home?

No one is saying you gotta wear a suit or wear "nice clothes." Just look the part. How lame would it be to see Behemoth and instead of all their metal garb they were wearing khaki cargo shorts and white tennis shoes on stage? Totally fucking lame. You're on a stage. Its a show, not your garage practice where you and your buddies trade licks over Mustang Sally.

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:24 am
by Stratz
GuitarBilly wrote:Absolutely. And it works the other way around too. If you want to set any "band rules" you better be a badass or not a single fuck will be given..
I have no patience with guys that are barely scratching average and want to dictate band or stage rules. Lead singers are particularly guilty of this kind of shit.
That reminds me of the time a singer in a band I used to be in briefly mentioned we should wear all back or something at practice before a show. He seemed genuinely hurt and upset when several people showed up in blue jeans. Like he wasn't mad just really disappointed in us and sad. lol
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:26 am
by benjamin801
The people in this thread saying "fuck rules, wear what you want, rules are stupid," remind me of the people in ugly amp threads who say, "I don't care what an amp looks like as long as it sounds good," while playing Fenders, Marshalls, or Mesas.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:40 am
by Telephant
benjamin801 wrote:The people in this thread saying "fuck rules, wear what you want, rules are stupid," remind me of the people in ugly amp threads who say, "I don't care what an amp looks like as long as it sounds good," while playing Fenders, Marshalls, or Mesas.
Exactly. Taking shit far too seriously.
You think any of us are really setting rules for our bandmates?!?

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:43 am
by Dave
I'm still amazed that people think musicians make sense. We're not rational people. We are superstitious, weird, particular and judgmental.
Like Shea said, if you want to look like an every day schlub then stay in the garage.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:46 am
by Dave
Telephant wrote:benjamin801 wrote:The people in this thread saying "fuck rules, wear what you want, rules are stupid," remind me of the people in ugly amp threads who say, "I don't care what an amp looks like as long as it sounds good," while playing Fenders, Marshalls, or Mesas.
Exactly. Taking shit far too seriously.
You think any of us are really setting rules for our bandmates?!?

We just fire them without reason and laugh at them behind their back

But seriously, it's rare I meet someone worth playing with that dresses out of Kmart circa 1995. It's like the community just looks the part without having to say all of this crap. Noobs that don't are usually just noobs that play in their basement. They don't get it, and they can't play worth a damn. No loss

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:01 am
by Dave

I imagine most people that object to this thread look like that, but fatter and with some kind of lame ass ball cap to hide the shame of going bald.

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:01 am
by Schweezly
Ron Burgundy wrote:Telephant wrote:benjamin801 wrote:The people in this thread saying "fuck rules, wear what you want, rules are stupid," remind me of the people in ugly amp threads who say, "I don't care what an amp looks like as long as it sounds good," while playing Fenders, Marshalls, or Mesas.
Exactly. Taking shit far too seriously.
You think any of us are really setting rules for our bandmates?!?

We just fire them without reason and laugh at them behind their back

But seriously, it's rare I meet someone worth playing with that dresses out of Kmart circa 1995. It's like the community just looks the part without having to say all of this crap. Noobs that don't are usually just noobs that play in their basement. They don't get it, and they can't play worth a damn. No loss

Exactly.
These aren't really "rules", its just common sense. If you're in a band playing gigs then you dress the part. The "part" can be black jeans and a tshirt...just don't look like a schlub.
If you're 55 and playing crappy 70's covers at the local dive for the 20 people who drink there every night...wear whatever you want. Be my guest. But if you're a band getting decent gigs I can assure you that at some point you will consider what to wear.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:19 am
by Telephant
Ron Burgundy wrote: It's like the community just looks the part without having to say all of this crap.
Yep.
Schweezly wrote:Ron Burgundy wrote:Telephant wrote:benjamin801 wrote:The people in this thread saying "fuck rules, wear what you want, rules are stupid," remind me of the people in ugly amp threads who say, "I don't care what an amp looks like as long as it sounds good," while playing Fenders, Marshalls, or Mesas.
Exactly. Taking shit far too seriously.
You think any of us are really setting rules for our bandmates?!?

We just fire them without reason and laugh at them behind their back

But seriously, it's rare I meet someone worth playing with that dresses out of Kmart circa 1995. It's like the community just looks the part without having to say all of this crap. Noobs that don't are usually just noobs that play in their basement. They don't get it, and they can't play worth a damn. No loss

Exactly.
These aren't really "rules", its just common sense. If you're in a band playing gigs then you dress the part. The "part" can be black jeans and a tshirt...just don't look like a schlub.
If you're 55 and playing crappy 70's covers at the local dive for the 20 people who drink there every night...wear whatever you want. Be my guest. But if you're a band getting decent gigs I can assure you that at some point you will consider what to wear.
And yep, again.

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:08 am
by stephen sawall
Imagine if you went to a football game and the players did not wear the monkey suit ..... it would be a very confusing. Everyone in jeans with tourist shirts. Same thing at McDonalds ....
Most people are way more image oriented ..... the actual music is much farther down the list of how you are perceived.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:22 am
by Telephant
Ron Burgundy wrote:
I imagine most people that object to this thread look like that, but fatter and with some kind of lame ass ball cap to hide the shame of going bald.

Can you imagine Hendrix playing Isle of Wight in this get up?

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:46 am
by Dave
stephen sawall wrote:Imagine if you went to a football game and the players did not wear the monkey suit ..... it would be a very confusing. Everyone in jeans with tourist shirts. Same thing at McDonalds ....
Most people are way more image oriented ..... the actual music is much farther down the list of how you are perceived.
Being like 65 years old must be awesome for you. Wear whatever you want, Jedi master

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:13 pm
by stephen sawall
Ron Burgundy wrote:stephen sawall wrote:Imagine if you went to a football game and the players did not wear the monkey suit ..... it would be a very confusing. Everyone in jeans with tourist shirts. Same thing at McDonalds ....
Most people are way more image oriented ..... the actual music is much farther down the list of how you are perceived.
Being like 65 years old must be awesome for you. Wear whatever you want, Jedi master


My age is on my profile if anyone is interested. I wear the same thing most of the time ... black jeans & T shirt. I have not wore blue jeans for about 20 years. I really do believe for most people how they see you visually is the strongest influence on how the perceive you no matter what you are doing. Like the saying goes ... you are who you pretend to be - so be careful about who you pretend to be.
Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:27 pm
by Telephant
stephen sawall wrote:Ron Burgundy wrote:stephen sawall wrote:Imagine if you went to a football game and the players did not wear the monkey suit ..... it would be a very confusing. Everyone in jeans with tourist shirts. Same thing at McDonalds ....
Most people are way more image oriented ..... the actual music is much farther down the list of how you are perceived.
Being like 65 years old must be awesome for you. Wear whatever you want, Jedi master


My age is on my profile if anyone is interested. I wear the same thing most of the time ... black jeans & T shirt. I have not wore blue jeans for about 20 years. I really do believe for most people how they see you visually is the strongest influence on how the perceive you no matter what you are doing. Like the saying goes ... you are who you pretend to be - so be careful about who you pretend to be.
I think Dave maybe thought you were being sarcastic. I agree with what you're saying. As my Dad always says, First impressions are lasting impressions.

Re: Stage Rules. We all have some, what are yours?
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:43 pm
by Dave
stephen sawall wrote:Ron Burgundy wrote:stephen sawall wrote:Imagine if you went to a football game and the players did not wear the monkey suit ..... it would be a very confusing. Everyone in jeans with tourist shirts. Same thing at McDonalds ....
Most people are way more image oriented ..... the actual music is much farther down the list of how you are perceived.
Being like 65 years old must be awesome for you. Wear whatever you want, Jedi master


My age is on my profile if anyone is interested. I wear the same thing most of the time ... black jeans & T shirt. I have not wore blue jeans for about 20 years. I really do believe for most people how they see you visually is the strongest influence on how the perceive you no matter what you are doing. Like the saying goes ... you are who you pretend to be - so be careful about who you pretend to be.
My bad, I thought you were being sarcastic lol
Sounds like we have similar ideas