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Having trouble with the D (speaking of setups, of course) 
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Ever find that one string just will not intonate properly, no matter what you do? Like, you’ve adjusted the saddle in the correct direction, as far as it will go, and the intonation is still off?

Or is that the kind of thing that, natch, only happens to draelyc? :cop: :lol: :cry:

Welp, it’s time for a new pack of strings, anyway — we'll see if that makes a difference...

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Yeah, sometimes you get a funky string. Replace it and try again.


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New string. Definitely.

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So you're saying the D isn't working, its not fitting in? Have you tried maybe lubing your nut? How about stretching the D? Sometimes you have to manhandle it in.

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So you're saying the D isn't working, its not fitting in? Have you tried maybe lubing your nut? How about stretching the D? Sometimes you have to manhandle it in.

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As already stated, get a new D.


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Chris Z wrote:
So you're saying the D isn't working, its not fitting in? Have you tried maybe lubing your nut? How about stretching the D? Sometimes you have to manhandle it in.



:lol:

Yeah, I tried all that. :(. Guess like everyone’s saying I’m just gonna have to replace it with a new one. :eek:

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Try a black one, those are much more durable than the Chinese made ones.

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Try a black one, those are much more durable than the Chinese made ones.


Think the adjective you were seeking is "beefier," not "durable."


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Brand new D didn't make a damn bit of difference. :phair:

Will changing out the whole set of strings make any difference, or is that likely a waste of time? Talking bout a Wilkinson vintage style trem set to float, fwiw.

Never noticed an intonation problem before, of course. Just suddenly I can't seem to get this one string even close enough for rock and/or roll...

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From what I've read it would seem that your problem with the D might be stemming from the nut.


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Have you been messing with things you shouldn't be messing with again? :cop:

I'd hazard a guess that the D might be ok but the other 5 are fucked :idk:

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Have you been messing with things you shouldn't be messing with again? :cop:

I'd hazard a guess that the D might be ok but the other 5 are fucked :idk:



I ... can neither confirm nor deny that viscous rumor. :sarge: :nono: :shh: :nerd:


But either way, it now appears that, however statistically improbable, I apparently got three bad strings in a row. Having swapped it out twice, I was pretty sure the problem was either with the bridge or the nut ... but out of desperation I broke open an old pack of D’Addarios that I really wasn’t planning ever to use — just keeping as a backup. Changed the d, tuned, stretched it, stroked it, retuned it ... and I tentatively think that may have fixed the problem. Will check again tomorrow, but I already noticed a huge difference.

File under Crap That Only Seems To Happen to Draelyc... :phair: :lol:

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So you couldn't get the saddle to adjust far enough forward?

Even all the way forward, the harmonic was still flat?

Can you flip the saddle?



Edit - n/m - I guess you got it.,....


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So you couldn't get the saddle to adjust far enough forward?

Even all the way forward, the harmonic was still flat?

Can you flip the saddle?



Edit - n/m - I guess you got it.,....


The harmonic was in tune, but the fretted notes were way sharp. Moving the saddle away from the gen bridge helped, but I ran out of bridge before I could get it far enough away to be on pitch.

Glad it looks,like it was just a run ofmbad strings, though. Didn't like the other possibilities....

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draelyc wrote:
clipless bumper wrote:
So you couldn't get the saddle to adjust far enough forward?

Even all the way forward, the harmonic was still flat?

Can you flip the saddle?



Edit - n/m - I guess you got it.,....


The harmonic was in tune, but the fretted notes were way sharp. Moving the saddle away from the gen bridge helped, but I ran out of bridge before I could get it far enough away to be on pitch.

Glad it looks,like it was just a run ofmbad strings, though. Didn't like the other possibilities....


If you tune the open string, the harmonic (by definition) will always be in tune. (I totally had it backwards above). If fretted is sharp, move the saddle away from the neck (got it now)

Stupid question - you were re-tuning the open string reach time you moved the saddle, right?


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draelyc wrote:
clipless bumper wrote:
So you couldn't get the saddle to adjust far enough forward?

Even all the way forward, the harmonic was still flat?

Can you flip the saddle?



Edit - n/m - I guess you got it.,....


The harmonic was in tune, but the fretted notes were way sharp. Moving the saddle away from the gen bridge helped, but I ran out of bridge before I could get it far enough away to be on pitch.

Glad it looks,like it was just a run ofmbad strings, though. Didn't like the other possibilities....


If you tune the open string, the harmonic (by definition) will always be in tune. (I totally had it backwards above). If fretted is sharp, move the saddle away from the neck (got it now)

Stupid question - you were re-tuning the open string reach time you moved the saddle, right?


Oh definitely. Had to -- the bridge is set up to float, so each time I moved the saddle I had to retune the one string and double check all the others. :phair:

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Yeah - stupid question.
I understand how to set intonation - but never understood why it is different for each string. Seems like out should be a simple mathematical ratio across the board.

Guess it has to do with string thickness, wound or plain, and action height above the frets????


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Beats me, lol. The wherefores of that are beyond my level of physics expertise! Half the time, guitar stuff like this seems more like unicorn hoodoo than science, anyway.

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