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So I think I am going to re-record all my Cherry 2000 stuff. I saw a vid where Ola was working on a feared album and it looked like he had EVERY song in one project and used automation to change tempos respectively for each song. I feel like this makes sense so that way you can consistently have one drum routing set up, one batch of guitar and bass sounds, etc and it is consistent across the board.

Anyone ever do this? Good news is I programmed all the drums myself so I can copy/paste them from the individual recordings into one master recording. I recorded each song from scratch with at times months in-between recordings. Replaying all the parts and doing the vocals will be the easiest bit.

Wat do GAB?

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Bear with me for a sec....I know guys in the orchestral world that use 600 track templates...one track for each articulation of an instrument...loaded up so they can just hit record for one track to accent a piece or whatever.

The way I see this working is to do one section (I know you're using Logic) for each album, but set up all at the same time.

Song 1= guitars L and R, vocals, drums (with all the busses), bass etc.

Song 2 = same shit

Song 3= same shit

Etc etc etc

This is gonna be a big CPU hit depending on what you're using (plugins etc) but you know you can disable/freeze entire sections at a time and just enable what you're working on at the time.

You'd bump out the stems for each track and slam em together for each song.


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Not sure I follow but, I would imagine that you're talking about adding temp change automation after mixing to stereo two track, while mixing to interleaved, AIFF or WAV?
If you do all your multi-tracking, then mix to two track, left and right, you can do your tempo change automation without using too much CPU power.

If you're looking to keep a uniform "sound" from one song to the next, it's a great idea to use the same settings throughout the tracking.
I'm sure you know that you can make a duplicate copy of each song's date file and use it to record new songs. Just delete all the nuance tracks and rerecord over each main track.

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Not sure I follow but, I would imagine that you're talking about adding temp change automation after mixing to stereo two track, while mixing to interleaved, AIFF or WAV?
If you do all your multi-tracking, then mix to two track, left and right, you can do your tempo change automation without using too much CPU power.

If you're looking to keep a uniform "sound" from one song to the next, it's a great idea to use the same settings throughout the tracking.
I'm sure you know that you can make a duplicate copy of each song's date file and use it to record new songs. Just delete all the nuance tracks and rerecord over each main track.

Yeah I am with all that. The Ola vid was the first time I saw anyone do what he was doing.

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Hmm.... In some ways that makes good sense, but in some ways, if you use different sounds, etc.. Ive got different guitars, amps, speakers, fx, going on different songs etc. Different bass sounds..
If youre keeping things the same across the board, with very little fx, it would make more sense. But you can set up templates to keep certain things very similar, you can have consistancy & possibly less confusion, depending on whats going on. Kindof a per situation thing to figure out.


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If you template your routing and effects chains you'll have the consistency. I don't see it as necessary.

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Pro Tools has an Import Data feature that copies all routing/settings
I don't see any advantage to such a lengthy session (?)

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Jer.... can you post the link to the Ola vid? I don't think I've seen it. Thanks!

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Yeah, i'm not sure why you wouldn't just create templates?

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I would quicker set up presets for your favorite drum, bass, compressor etc settings and then track each song individually because at the end of the day each song may require tweeks to the drums, bass, etc and that wouldn't really be possible in one track, at least, I don't think so..

There's also the issue of if that ONE file gets corrupted, deleted, whatever'd... you're screwed...

BUT.... most importantly IMO, Why would you want EVERY SONG to have the same sound? when songs are similar in sound I personally get disinterested, tempo, key and tonal variation are essential when composing an album IMO...


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You guys are si dang advanced.

I live in a world of constant jenky compromise.

Play the song in the daw with the soundcard going into a tape recorder. :lol:

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Thats how i've recorded every album ive ever done. I generally start 'tape ' at zero, and set points for in and out, then automate. Always worked great.. still works great.


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Meanwhile.. if you're using different sounds- park em on different tracks and treat them differently. Its a lotta data entry.. but mute whateve youre not using. Easy peasy.


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Marc G wrote:
I would quicker set up presets for your favorite drum, bass, compressor etc settings and then track each song individually because at the end of the day each song may require tweeks to the drums, bass, etc and that wouldn't really be possible in one track, at least, I don't think so..

There's also the issue of if that ONE file gets corrupted, deleted, whatever'd... you're screwed...

BUT.... most importantly IMO, Why would you want EVERY SONG to have the same sound? when songs are similar in sound I personally get disinterested, tempo, key and tonal variation are essential when composing an album IMO...

Tempo and key are easy enough to change in the same project.

I mean setting effects and drum routing, kits, etc. I don't want to be bouncing back and forth between projects whil hoping I remembered to set thing the same. I do Metal or pop punk. No reason to use different amps for every song. No clean parts or anything like that.

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